Do the SMG paddles turn with the wheel?

**Doctor Love** · Mon, Mar-28-2005, 10:42:26 PM

Just curious. Thanks

Makr · Mon, Mar-28-2005, 10:44:21 PM

This scares the **** out me. No really is this what you guys think?

flabmaster · Mon, Mar-28-2005, 10:47:27 PM

Paddles on the M3 are wheel mounted. As such, they turn with the wheel. On Ferrari's they are dash mounted and do not turn.

**Doctor Love** · Mon, Mar-28-2005, 10:48:01 PM

Quote:

This scares the **** out me. No really is this what you guys think?

I have a 6-speed, I've never driven an SMG. I was curious whether the paddles are fixed on the steering column or move with the wheel as the question was asked by someone I know who was considering one. I'm not sure why that question is scary!

Quote:

Paddles on the M3 are wheel mounted. As such, they turn with the wheel. On Ferrari's they are dash mounted and do not turn.

Thanks flab!

Choson1 · Mon, Mar-28-2005, 11:07:07 PM

they should come up with a shifter for the left foot for smg. like, you move a pedal left for downshift and right for up. that way, you can shift while turning your steering wheel. i dunno. maybe this is a bad idea.

flabmaster · Mon, Mar-28-2005, 11:22:37 PM

It's a good thought, but that would hinder one's ability to left foot trail brake, which is a great advantage of SMG. On a track, it isn't really a great idea to be shifting mid corner anyway as you can upset the balance of the car that way. Generally, shifts are made before and after corneres. On the street if I have to shift in the middle of a turn, I use the floor shifter instead of the paddles.
-Dave

DaBean · Mon, Mar-28-2005, 11:28:39 PM

it's made so you can keep both hands on the wheel at ALL times... if it weren't the case, it would defy the point of SMG... IMO the way Ferrari has it setup is counterproductive, 'cause you still have to take your hands off the wheel/shuffle them... If anything, they should be the way they are in the M3 in a race car (ferrari) and the way ferrari has it set up in a more "street" car, like the M3... but I like them the way they are

SpicyMcHaggis · Mon, Mar-28-2005, 11:46:42 PM

well if you're gonna have to shuffle your hands anyways in order to rotate the wheel enough to make any given sharp corner, wouldn't it not matter?

i'd rather have them mounted to the column rather than the wheel so i wouldn't have to wonder wherer my downshift paddle went, it would always be consistent...

just my .02, though

dmg · Tue, Mar-29-2005, 03:44:51 AM

in terms of performance driving, you wouldn't shift during a turn

gnk2727 · Tue, Mar-29-2005, 03:46:22 AM

I really wouldnt shift during a turn, if anything downshift before and accelerate into it.....

Mon, Mar-28-2005, 10:42:26 PM	#1
Doctor Love Banned Join Date: Sep 2004 Age: 36 Posts: 4,868 Reputation: 0 Location: Orange County, CA	Do the SMG paddles turn with the wheel? Just curious. Thanks

Mon, Mar-28-2005, 10:47:27 PM	#3
flabmaster Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 1,442 Reputation: 0 Location: Western NY	Paddles on the M3 are wheel mounted. As such, they turn with the wheel. On Ferrari's they are dash mounted and do not turn. __________________ Vehicles: 2002 LSB M3 w/ SMG 2004 Suzuki GSXR 750

Mon, Mar-28-2005, 11:07:07 PM	#5
Choson1 2004 M3 & 2005 645CI Join Date: May 2004 Age: 36 Posts: 702 Reputation: 0 Location: SoCal	they should come up with a shifter for the left foot for smg. like, you move a pedal left for downshift and right for up. that way, you can shift while turning your steering wheel. i dunno. maybe this is a bad idea. __________________

Mon, Mar-28-2005, 11:22:37 PM	#6
flabmaster Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 1,442 Reputation: 0 Location: Western NY	It's a good thought, but that would hinder one's ability to left foot trail brake, which is a great advantage of SMG. On a track, it isn't really a great idea to be shifting mid corner anyway as you can upset the balance of the car that way. Generally, shifts are made before and after corneres. On the street if I have to shift in the middle of a turn, I use the floor shifter instead of the paddles. -Dave __________________ Vehicles: 2002 LSB M3 w/ SMG 2004 Suzuki GSXR 750

Mon, Mar-28-2005, 11:28:39 PM	#7
DaBean Smurf Driver Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 10,735 In the garage: '04 BMW M3 Reputation: 0 Location: San Francisco, CA	it's made so you can keep both hands on the wheel at ALL times... if it weren't the case, it would defy the point of SMG... IMO the way Ferrari has it setup is counterproductive, 'cause you still have to take your hands off the wheel/shuffle them... If anything, they should be the way they are in the M3 in a race car (ferrari) and the way ferrari has it set up in a more "street" car, like the M3... but I like them the way they are __________________ -Fabien NASA NorCal Region Instructor **SMG Loverz* Club***

Mon, Mar-28-2005, 10:44:21 PM	#2
Makr I am the best Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 248 Reputation: 0 Location: sl ut	This scares the **** out me. No really is this what you guys think?

Mon, Mar-28-2005, 11:46:42 PM	#8
SpicyMcHaggis Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 508 Reputation: 0	well if you're gonna have to shuffle your hands anyways in order to rotate the wheel enough to make any given sharp corner, wouldn't it not matter? i'd rather have them mounted to the column rather than the wheel so i wouldn't have to wonder wherer my downshift paddle went, it would always be consistent... just my .02, though

Tue, Mar-29-2005, 03:44:51 AM	#9
dmg Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 295 Reputation: 0	in terms of performance driving, you wouldn't shift during a turn

Tue, Mar-29-2005, 03:46:22 AM	#10
gnk2727 I Miss My M3...... Join Date: Jun 2003 Age: 31 Posts: 10,964 Reputation: 0 Location: Chitown	I really wouldnt shift during a turn, if anything downshift before and accelerate into it..... __________________ 2008 Alpine White / Beige X5 3.0si 2007 Alpine White / Beige 328i Sedan GONE............

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