[PedalOnTheRight]

Of course, this forum exists to celebrate what many of us consider the best all around model BMW has ever made...but is Hammond right about the brand? Subjectively, objectively, extremely biased or otherwise, I find it hard to justify another manufacturer who puts as much into each aspect of their product as BMW.

"Their cars are not about cutting edge, brand new technology, breaking new ground, pushing things further," Hammond says. "Their cars are about doing what's already known...and doing it extremely well."

http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/break...140906756.html

[SLAYERMK_I]

Well it isn´t The Ultimate Driving Machine just because it sounds right.

[ultimatum127]

It really depends on what you look for in what you want to consider the best company. There is no doubt that the BMW ///M series is great but BMW as a whole maybe not. It is apparent in the new models like the 3 and 1 series that quality did go down a bit in terms of the interior trim and pieces, simple things like the plastic they choose to place in the cabin, performance wise of course they have their own ///M division but then again doesnt almost every company have their own special devision? I am not going to hate on BMW or my very own M but Evo's and STI could hands down destroy any Beemer on the track, no doubt about it, and for a fraction of the price. BMW is not ahead of anybody or behind, they are in the middle where being good at everything is the goal instead of being good at one thing and not another. Let it not be forgotten to that BMW's motto for the past couple years has been Efficient Dynamics....so what does that say about the company? BMW is an amazing company ill give that to them and my favorite company if i had to choose, but the greatest or best? Maybe not

[riskee]

go drive a sti or evo and gtfo ^^^

[ultimatum127]

Originally Posted by riskee

go drive a sti or evo and gtfo ^^^

Haha i have driven an STI, didnt mean to make you mad im just putting my out there

[riskee]

lol man your a bmw driver have some pride lol sti and evos dream to take us on the track i pound on them all day long bro and im not mad

[ultimatum127]

It does depend on driver skill after all, doesn't it :p

[riskee]

yea that has a big roll if your in a stick m3 and you dont know how to drive even camary can take you. so yea thats correct

[A White m3]

I no see STI or EVO crap box here. Am I missing something?

Man.. this is SAD, the EVO's and sti's kept getting lost on the track, and at the end of the day, look who won! a STI? no.. a M3, and to top it off, An would have beat out STi's/evo's in even higher classes than he was running. Stis/evo's do not "hands down destroy us" infact I got better times than the #2 sti as a novice.

Pos Driver # Car Home Town Sponsor(s) Run 1 Run 2 Run 3 Run 4 Indexed OA PAX
1 An Nguyen 1 95 BMW M3 San Francisco 42.229 40.164 40.113 40.498
2 Austin Maguire 68 08 Subaru STI Half Moon Bay 42.380 DNF 42.092 42.185
3 Kurt Lee 2 BMW M3 55.915 45.964(1 43.707 42.899
4 Dean Coombes 5 Evo DNF DNF DNF 50.400(1

[SLAYERMK_I]

That´s a DTM car...