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Old Mon, Apr-09-2012, 02:54:33 PM   #21
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Default Re: Completed the structual foam method.

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I'm reading the TIS again now and it makes no mention of the right side. It sounds as though the cavity needs to be filled with two tubes of the structural foam shown in the original post.

So I'm thinking that my 'logic' was right in this case.
Do not use structural foam for the cavity. The stuff I used works. All you are doing is creating a wall barrier to keep the structural foam in one area.
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Do not use structural foam for the cavity. The stuff I used works. All you are doing is creating a wall barrier to keep the structural foam in one area.
I wasn't going to use the structural foam as cavity foam. The TIS makes it sound like you need to inject two packs of structural foam on the left hand side. I'll post the passage when I get back to my desk.
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I wasn't going to use the structural foam as cavity foam. The TIS makes it sound like you need to inject two packs of structural foam on the left hand side. I'll post the passage when I get back to my desk.
Oh okay. I got ya. I might have misread it. You are correct.
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Default Re: Completed the structual foam method.

Take a look at steps 19-22. It only ever references the holes on the left hand side.
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I want to do this soon as well!

Could you please clarify the steps necessary to complete this? The discussion in this thread is confusing me. Thanks
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I'm reading the TIS again now and it makes no mention of the right side. It sounds as though the cavity needs to be filled with two tubes of the structural foam shown in the original post.

So I'm thinking that my 'logic' was right in this case.
Gotcha...we are actually talking about the same thing. In my initial read of your post I thought you were confirming that the OP was correct in using only two cartridges total for the left and right. I now see you were talking about using 2 cartridges per side.

At any rate, there is really nothing to confirm or reason through here, which I think is confusing people who are reading this. It was stated well before your post, that in both the TIS and per a former BMW master tech, that 2 cartridges are needed per side. So, again, before anyone else gets confused:

To do the foam method, you need 2 cartridges/side, which equates to 1 kit/side. So, if you want to do left AND right, you will need 4 cartridges total, or 2 kits.
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Gotcha...we are actually talking about the same thing. In my initial read of your post I thought you were confirming that the OP was correct in using only two cartridges total for the left and right. I now see you were talking about using 2 cartridges per side.

At any rate, there is really nothing to confirm or reason through here, which I think is confusing people who are reading this. It was stated well before your post, that in both the TIS and per a former BMW master tech, that 2 cartridges are needed per side. So, again, before anyone else gets confused:

To do the foam method, you need 2 cartridges/side, which equates to 1 kit/side. So, if you want to do left AND right, you will need 4 cartridges total, or 2 kits.
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OP - Read you are now having the plates welded in. Why so?
And the PN you used is $75 at ECS. You say it was 400ml, so is that all that is needed for each side (plus the sealer)?
The TIS states this PN 83 19 0 445 721, which ECS has for $135 (per side).

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Gotcha...we are actually talking about the same thing. In my initial read of your post I thought you were confirming that the OP was correct in using only two cartridges total for the left and right. I now see you were talking about using 2 cartridges per side.

At any rate, there is really nothing to confirm or reason through here, which I think is confusing people who are reading this. It was stated well before your post, that in both the TIS and per a former BMW master tech, that 2 cartridges are needed per side. So, again, before anyone else gets confused:

To do the foam method, you need 2 cartridges/side, which equates to 1 kit/side. So, if you want to do left AND right, you will need 4 cartridges total, or 2 kits.
So I just placed an order based on this, and I've come to the conclusion this was incorrect. You need 2 cartridges total if you plan to do left and right. The 'kit' (p/n 83190445721) includes 2, which is all you need in regards to the structural foam. Simple as that.
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