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E46 M3 (2001-2006) Engine: S54 - Max Hp: 333 hp at 7,900 rpm / 262 lb/ft at 4,900 rpm
Total Produced: 45,000+ - Years Produced: 2001 to 2006.


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Old Sat, Jan-28-2012, 03:31:23 PM   #1
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Default M3 SMG vs Manual?

I have an opportunity to buy an E46 M3 with SMG for the right price. Is SMG really as bad a system as some claim? Some hate it, others love it. This would be a daily driver and get some track use. Thoughts? Thanks.
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Default Re: M3 SMG vs Manual?

This topic has been beaten to death so many times.... Do a search. Read the SMG stickies familiarize yourself with the info and maint necessary in general. GL

On a side note I love my SMG and Im sure most SMG owners share the same sentiment.
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Old Sat, Jan-28-2012, 03:34:11 PM   #3
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Drive both, that's what I did. I settled on 6 speed, not because I hated SMG, it was just more enjoyable for me.
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Default Re: M3 SMG vs Manual?

I was on the same boat. I refused to even consider getting an SMG while I was shopping. It had to be a manual and only a manual. Well I found a bunch of cars in manual that didnt have everything I wanted, but a car with smg that had everything I wanted. I decided to get the SMG. It honestly is a great piece of engineering. You just need to get used to it for the first week, but after that its awesome. If the price is right and it has everything you want, go for it. Don't just buy the car because of the price, unless its a dead steal.
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Default Re: M3 SMG vs Manual?

I was also in the same boat and after owning a stick Evo and STI with twin exedy clutches, i decided to try out an SMG. The first place i ever drove an SMG was 30 minutes before I bought the car and I loved it... I was looking for a manual but also could not find one with all of the packages I wanted and decided that the price was far too great to let it go. I would highly recommend looking into a SMG one, just make sure the car gets a full inspection at a BMW dealership or indy that you trust and make sure they spend ample time checking out the SMG pump and everything. It is very expensive to repair and replace in the severe cases but in my opinion, very well worth it.
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Default Re: M3 SMG vs Manual?

Honestly, I liked SMG. If you just want to have the car as a weekender or spirited driving machine. Get SMG. If you daily it then get manual. SMG in traffic is very jerky. It's not an automatic so its not going to feel like one. So when you are sitting in stop and go it almost feels like being in the car with someone learning stick shift lol

Reliability wise they are fine. You will see a ton of failed threads about SMG's, but most are just a simple Relay. I know plenty of people with SMG II M3's and not one has had a pump failure.

I went with a true manual because thats what I enjoy driving. All off my cars have been manual. I enjoy the clutch pedal. So thats what I went with. Hold out for the right car if necessary. Took me a few years to find mine. Fully loaded '05 with manual.

Best of Luck and like the others have said search around.
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Default Re: M3 SMG vs Manual?

Admittedly not very scientific, but here's a thread/poll I posted a few weeks back when I was wrestling with the same concerns:


http://www.m3forum.net/m3forum/showthread.php?t=390967
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SMG isn't as bad as some would say. Best thing is test drive it and make sure its in S5 and nothing lower if you want a good experience. In slow moving traffic with lots of stop and go just shift at low RPM to prevent car from jerking.
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