USA 3.2 M3 - questions

**Predator** · Thu, Jul-29-2004, 06:44:02 PM

I was wondering as the uk later e36's were designated Evo's

does the US 3.2 litre E36 M3's have :-

-3.2 litre engine
-6spd box
-double vanos
-floating discs

is the USA M3 3.2litre version also considered an EVO ? and did it have a power increase over the normal 3 litre usa M3 ?

this guy i no from america is in my science class. HE said he bought his M3 brand new from a BMW dealer, he also said his M3 was an evo and had a 6spd and the same 321 bhp as my car, i was thinking BULLSH!T. I didnt say anything to the guy because hes one of them people that thinks they r always right, i cant stand the bastRD.

he only mentioned all this about owning a evo when he saw me getting in2 my car @ collage. The cheeky fukka even asked for a test drive "just to make sure that my car wasn't a fake!"

cheers for your help

dboffa · Thu, Jul-29-2004, 07:15:34 PM

The 1996 and op M3's were not evos. The engine was designated S52US and was a 3.2 liter I6 putting out the same hp/tq numbers as the S50US (240/238 I believe). The difference was the torque became available sooner in the rev range.

They all came with 5 speed gearboxes; no 6 speeds until the E46.

No double vanos.

No floating rotors.

nmaino · Thu, Jul-29-2004, 07:22:50 PM

The US is considered an EVO (according to my "Original BMW M-Series" book by James Taylor). Here are the marked differences between your EVO and ours:

Differences:
1. No double VANOS.
2. NO 6-Speed tranny.
3. No floating discs.

Simularities:
1. 3.2L displacement.

Other US EVO Changes
1. Upgrade in horsepower (Unlike your EVO with 321hp, the US EVO -namely the cars with the 3.2L engine- had a power increase to 243, an increase of 3hp, Taylor, 122-124). Torque also went up to 236lb ft. an increase of 11lb. ft. (Taylor, 122-124).
2. Final gear ratio switched to 3.23:1 (Taylor, 124).
3. A host of about five or six different options either become standardized or deleted.

I would say that your US friend is very wrong.

Check out the Taylor book, it is a wealth of knowledge.

**Sirius** · Thu, Jul-29-2004, 07:25:49 PM

Dudes full of sh!t.

M3AN · Fri, Jul-30-2004, 03:36:20 AM

Check: http://www.bmwmregistry.com/model_faq.php?id=15

All the info you need...

Ty Vil · Sat, Jul-31-2004, 10:54:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by M3AN

Check: http://www.bmwmregistry.com/model_faq.php?id=15

All the info you need...

damn, beat me to it.

Edgy · Sun, Aug-01-2004, 10:23:35 PM

EVO isn't even official BMW speak, right? Just started calling it that in UK...

M3AN · Sun, Aug-01-2004, 11:58:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Edgy

EVO isn't even official BMW speak, right? Just started calling it that in UK...

Correct in a sense... BMW dealers called them "Evos" but the factory never did.

nmaino · Mon, Aug-02-2004, 05:48:07 PM

I think that the factory called the E30 evolution models EVO (like the Sport EVO for example).

I think the term EVO just comes from the fact that the car is an evolution of the first production model run.

o_0 · Mon, Aug-02-2004, 11:00:15 PM

My BMW book states BMW M3 EVOLUTION ??

I thought BMW did consider it an Evolution, from the evolution 1, 2 and 3 from the E30 series.

thoughts?

Thu, Jul-29-2004, 06:44:02 PM	#1
Predator Banned Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 29 Posts: 6,358 Reputation: 0 Location: Third Rock from the Sun	USA 3.2 M3 - questions I was wondering as the uk later e36's were designated Evo's does the US 3.2 litre E36 M3's have :- -3.2 litre engine -6spd box -double vanos -floating discs is the USA M3 3.2litre version also considered an EVO ? and did it have a power increase over the normal 3 litre usa M3 ? this guy i no from america is in my science class. HE said he bought his M3 brand new from a BMW dealer, he also said his M3 was an evo and had a 6spd and the same 321 bhp as my car, i was thinking BULLSH!T. I didnt say anything to the guy because hes one of them people that thinks they r always right, i cant stand the bastRD. he only mentioned all this about owning a evo when he saw me getting in2 my car @ collage. The cheeky fukka even asked for a test drive "just to make sure that my car wasn't a fake!" cheers for your help

Thu, Jul-29-2004, 07:15:34 PM	#2
dboffa Puts the "ass" in "class" Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 91 Reputation: 0 Location: Madison, NJ	The 1996 and op M3's were not evos. The engine was designated S52US and was a 3.2 liter I6 putting out the same hp/tq numbers as the S50US (240/238 I believe). The difference was the torque became available sooner in the rev range. They all came with 5 speed gearboxes; no 6 speeds until the E46. No double vanos. No floating rotors. __________________

Thu, Jul-29-2004, 07:22:50 PM	#3
nmaino The Fritzman Join Date: Jul 2004 Age: 35 Posts: 336 Reputation: 0 Location: San Diego	The US is considered an EVO (according to my "Original BMW M-Series" book by James Taylor). Here are the marked differences between your EVO and ours: Differences: 1. No double VANOS. 2. NO 6-Speed tranny. 3. No floating discs. Simularities: 1. 3.2L displacement. Other US EVO Changes 1. Upgrade in horsepower (Unlike your EVO with 321hp, the US EVO -namely the cars with the 3.2L engine- had a power increase to 243, an increase of 3hp, Taylor, 122-124). Torque also went up to 236lb ft. an increase of 11lb. ft. (Taylor, 122-124). 2. Final gear ratio switched to 3.23:1 (Taylor, 124). 3. A host of about five or six different options either become standardized or deleted. I would say that your US friend is very wrong. Check out the Taylor book, it is a wealth of knowledge. __________________ "Friends Don't Let Friends Drag Race." "Remember where you have been; look to where you are going." 1999 Estoril Blue M3 with Black Leather http://photos.yahoo.com/nmaino6 Last edited by nmaino; Thu, Jul-29-2004 at 07:31:59 PM.

Thu, Jul-29-2004, 07:25:49 PM	#4
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Sun, Aug-01-2004, 10:23:35 PM	#7
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Mon, Aug-02-2004, 05:48:07 PM	#9
nmaino The Fritzman Join Date: Jul 2004 Age: 35 Posts: 336 Reputation: 0 Location: San Diego	I think that the factory called the E30 evolution models EVO (like the Sport EVO for example). I think the term EVO just comes from the fact that the car is an evolution of the first production model run. __________________ "Friends Don't Let Friends Drag Race." "Remember where you have been; look to where you are going." 1999 Estoril Blue M3 with Black Leather http://photos.yahoo.com/nmaino6

Mon, Aug-02-2004, 11:00:15 PM	#10
o_0 E36 Euro M3 owner. Join Date: Aug 2003 Age: 33 Posts: 177 Reputation: 0 Location: United Kingdom	My BMW book states BMW M3 EVOLUTION ?? I thought BMW did consider it an Evolution, from the evolution 1, 2 and 3 from the E30 series. thoughts? __________________ oll

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