I fail to understand

Ghozt · Fri, Aug-31-2007, 03:17:49 PM

Why people shell out uber amounts of money for "genuine OEM CSL" parts...

Fill me in fellas, what's the point?

As if modding this car isn't expensive enough, some people really feel the need to spend double for parts that will still never make their car a true CSL...???

I know there are a lot of OEM people, but what is the real benefit of sourcing OEM CSL? I see a lot of people point out how they have genuine CSL this and genuine CSL that. I am just confused as to why getting real CSL stuff is that important.

Yup, this is likely to start a debate, but please enlighten me.... It's Friday before a long weekend, and I'm bored at work

In my opinion, yep it's nice to have "the real deal"... But at the price tag for those items, and the knowing that you still don't have a CSL M3, it's not worth it.

350banshee · Fri, Aug-31-2007, 03:46:11 PM

I agree man. So they made a CSL version that's not imported. Do we really need to spend hundreds and thousands of dollars on consoles, seats...etc. I have the trunk and diffuser and the only people who know it's not OEM CSL are the handful of dudes I see at the meets every now and again. Stand back 5 feet and noone knows. But some people are really into nothing but OEM which is cool, just not me. I'd rather save the extra $$ for suspension, tires, brakes...etc. I don't consider Vorsteiner products like a cheap knockoff sneaker or something. (Gotta love the fake Adidas shell tops!!)

And sure the other side of the coin is fitment, which is as a legitimate gripe. My V-CSL trunk fits great and only took a small time to adjust. To each his own I guess.

odgaard · Fri, Aug-31-2007, 03:47:13 PM

i am +1 for your comment...its pretty unecessary

i guess you get what you pay for?

LightWerkz · Fri, Aug-31-2007, 03:48:20 PM

The only benifit is the gaurentee of perfect fitment and quality.

And yes you always get what you pay for.

/thread

King Luis · Fri, Aug-31-2007, 03:49:04 PM

oem csl parts imo is not worth it. there are replica csl parts that fit great.
BUT! there are parts out there (non-csl) that don't fit that well and going oem and paying more is the only way to really to avoid headaches is to pay the extra money and get oem.

BattleWagon · Fri, Aug-31-2007, 03:53:57 PM

Its like Tiffany's vs. Ben Bridge

Roma · Fri, Aug-31-2007, 03:54:54 PM

OEM > Aftermarket

/thread

outkast · Fri, Aug-31-2007, 03:58:18 PM

what's the point of modding for appearance at all? to satisfy individual preference. is any of it worth the money?

if you're talking about OEM CSL vs. replica CSL parts, my guess is some people would probably say the fit is better with an OEM boot lid than a vorsteiner one.

Roma · Fri, Aug-31-2007, 04:02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by outkast

what's the point of modding for appearance at all? to satisfy individual preference. is any of it worth the money?

if you're talking about OEM CSL vs. replica CSL parts, my guess is some people would probably say the fit is better with an OEM boot lid than a vorsteiner one.

There are no fitment issues with OEM parts

Even though Vorsteiner is regarded as the best csl replica vendor, many members have experienced fitment issues with various parts.

You just cant beat OEM

**Obioban** · Fri, Aug-31-2007, 04:10:32 PM

Fitment and prestige.

That said, there are many cases I would take aftermarket or stock over OE CSL

Trunk-- aftermarket is lighter

battery-- can get lighter batteries that perform just as well

exhaust -- still a heavy bastard, still small tips, still raspy

Wheels-- Cast, heavy, don't clear BBK. RG4s cost less, are stonger, clear BBKs, fit bigger tires, and look the same

Rear control arms-- OE are weak and not adjustable

center console-- no armrest

rear seat-- only fits 2 people

steering wheel-- no controls, wears out quickly compared to stock

There are very few cases where I desire OE CSL

Fri, Aug-31-2007, 03:17:49 PM	#1
Ghozt Phuckface!!!!! Join Date: May 2007 Age: 31 Posts: 12,476 Reputation: 0 Location: illadelph	I fail to understand Why people shell out uber amounts of money for "genuine OEM CSL" parts... Fill me in fellas, what's the point? As if modding this car isn't expensive enough, some people really feel the need to spend double for parts that will still never make their car a true CSL...??? I know there are a lot of OEM people, but what is the real benefit of sourcing OEM CSL? I see a lot of people point out how they have genuine CSL this and genuine CSL that. I am just confused as to why getting real CSL stuff is that important. Yup, this is likely to start a debate, but please enlighten me.... It's Friday before a long weekend, and I'm bored at work In my opinion, yep it's nice to have "the real deal"... But at the price tag for those items, and the knowing that you still don't have a CSL M3, it's not worth it. __________________

Fri, Aug-31-2007, 03:47:13 PM	#3
odgaard X_X Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 6,147 Reputation: 0 Location: Indianapolis	i am +1 for your comment...its pretty unecessary i guess you get what you pay for? __________________ Gruppe M \| Autosolutions SSK \| CSL trunk/diffusor \| Rotora BBK \| Ground Control Coilovers 525f/600r

Fri, Aug-31-2007, 03:48:20 PM	#4
LightWerkz Automotive Lighting Innovations Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 6,842 Reputation: 0 Location: Oakland NJ	The only benifit is the gaurentee of perfect fitment and quality. And yes you always get what you pay for. /thread __________________ Caesar Rowinski - LIGHTWERKZ 2009 BMW M3 Sedan - Space Gray FS: PFC Pads

Fri, Aug-31-2007, 03:53:57 PM	#6
BattleWagon Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,923 Reputation: 0 Location: SoCal	Its like Tiffany's vs. Ben Bridge __________________ 2005 AW 6MT Blk_leather Xenon nothing else SOLD

Fri, Aug-31-2007, 03:54:54 PM	#7
Roma teh Brit Pack President Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 5,865 Reputation: 0 Location: Chicago	OEM > Aftermarket /thread __________________ We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light.

Fri, Aug-31-2007, 03:46:11 PM	#2
350banshee Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,236 Reputation: 0 Location: Camden	I agree man. So they made a CSL version that's not imported. Do we really need to spend hundreds and thousands of dollars on consoles, seats...etc. I have the trunk and diffuser and the only people who know it's not OEM CSL are the handful of dudes I see at the meets every now and again. Stand back 5 feet and noone knows. But some people are really into nothing but OEM which is cool, just not me. I'd rather save the extra $$ for suspension, tires, brakes...etc. I don't consider Vorsteiner products like a cheap knockoff sneaker or something. (Gotta love the fake Adidas shell tops!!) And sure the other side of the coin is fitment, which is as a legitimate gripe. My V-CSL trunk fits great and only took a small time to adjust. To each his own I guess.

Fri, Aug-31-2007, 03:58:18 PM	#8
outkast Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 879 Reputation: 0 Location: Atlanta	what's the point of modding for appearance at all? to satisfy individual preference. is any of it worth the money? if you're talking about OEM CSL vs. replica CSL parts, my guess is some people would probably say the fit is better with an OEM boot lid than a vorsteiner one.

Fri, Aug-31-2007, 04:10:32 PM	#10
Obioban M3Forum Sponsor Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 23,464 In the garage: '95 BMW M3 '05 BMW M3 Reputation: 0 Location: SE PA	Fitment and prestige. That said, there are many cases I would take aftermarket or stock over OE CSL Trunk-- aftermarket is lighter battery-- can get lighter batteries that perform just as well exhaust -- still a heavy bastard, still small tips, still raspy Wheels-- Cast, heavy, don't clear BBK. RG4s cost less, are stonger, clear BBKs, fit bigger tires, and look the same Rear control arms-- OE are weak and not adjustable center console-- no armrest rear seat-- only fits 2 people steering wheel-- no controls, wears out quickly compared to stock There are very few cases where I desire OE CSL __________________ Current Cars: 2005 IR/IR M3, 2003 TiAg M5, 1995 S50 B32 GT3 RS Green M3 Race Car _____Former Cars: 2004 TiAg/IR M3, 1996 TV/black M3, 1995 AW M3 shell Useful stuff: Objective suspension comparison, DIY suspension install VIDEOS (e36 version), Stick Driving Basics, e46 Climate Control, Better Fuel Economy 101, 10W-60 TWS Everything on the car: Mod List __________ HighRes M Wallpapers (Misc collected pics) <--- save target to desktop Selling: Suspensions, brakes, safety equipment, etc (ask away!) Renting: Valve shim adjustment kit, RTAB tool, Ball joint tool

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