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E46 M3 (2001-2006) Engine: S54 - Max Hp: 333 hp at 7,900 rpm / 262 lb/ft at 4,900 rpm
Total Produced: 45,000+ - Years Produced: 2001 to 2006.


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Old Tue, Sep-17-2013, 06:05:06 PM   #41
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I just left my car in the shop for this procedure. Have no tooling but most important time to do it myself. Although I do it as preventive action since the engine runs just fine I'm still keen to know the result of crank/rods status after the guys dismount it tomorrow. The rest is routine.

Good job!
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Pull engine > repair and replace all vanos parts and rod bearings on an engine stand.

This might be a good winter project.

Very nice thread OP. Hopefully your pics won't ever disappear like they do on old threads so frequently.
I don't see the advantage of removing the engine. Surely that has to be harder than this hehe
They won't. It's a paid account that I maintain just for this.
I also get annoyed when a great diy has no pics

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^photobucket should be secure.

If you have access to a lift, I don't think you're saving much doing it out of the car than in, and taking the engine out/in is a fair bit of effort. Takes it from a one day project to a 3 day project, imo.

Not sure there's any benefit to doing the Beisan stuff with the engine out of the car.
Vanos for sure is not harder in the car than out but I wouldn't remove the engine for rod bearings
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Sooner or later you'll have to if you want to keep this wonderful car!
No kidding. I'm at 130K, so it'll be sooner rather than later.

Just curious about the tightening procedures you detailed. If you have an early car, but the recall work was done after the 12/2002 cutoff, is there any chance the updated parts were used and you'd therefore need to use the more complex sequence?
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Why did you go back in with OEM rod bearings... why not another option like the Bimmerworld set w/ ARP bolts?
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No kidding. I'm at 130K, so it'll be sooner rather than later.

Just curious about the tightening procedures you detailed. If you have an early car, but the recall work was done after the 12/2002 cutoff, is there any chance the updated parts were used and you'd therefore need to use the more complex sequence?
No chance. The new bolts are E12 and the old ones are M12.
Fortunately someone thought this through hehe
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Interested in what yours look like!



I don't see the advantage of removing the engine. Surely that has to be harder than this hehe
They won't. It's a paid account that I maintain just for this.
I also get annoyed when a great diy has no pics



Vanos for sure is not harder in the car than out but I wouldn't remove the engine for rod bearings
The advantage I perceive would be me sitting my rear end on a stool while I do all the technical work.
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Why did you go back in with OEM rod bearings... why not another option like the Bimmerworld set w/ ARP bolts?
Lack of evidence of their superiority.

Oem ones last 100k with almost no exceptions. I don't see the advantage of changing to something else

The stronger bolts are cool but enough supercharged people are around to see this isn't a real problem
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The advantage I perceive would be me sitting my rear end on a stool while I do all the technical work.
But first you'd have to pull the engine... I'd be surprised if that's easier than this
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But first you'd have to pull the engine... I'd be surprised if that's easier than this
You're probably right. :shrug: I just like the idea of having the engine on an engine stand right by my workbench and tool chest. Instead of being on my back on the ground, as I have no lift.

My car only has 75k miles, so I probably won't be doing rod bearings for quite a while anyway.
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The stronger bolts are cool but enough supercharged people are around to see this isn't a real problem
Firstly, nice DIY, not only for doing it, but for writing it up.

Secondly, I think you can make a case for not upgrading to ARP bolts, but I don't think it's a very good idea to reuse rod bolts. They are not very expensive, but if one ever let go, it would be catastrophic.

My car went in for the rod bearing replacement twice. The first time, they only changed the bearings. The second time, they changed the bearings and the bolts. (My car has 12k kms on the odometer.)
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Is there a particular disadvantage to ARP rod bolts? At $85-100, they're not a whole lot more than the OE bolts.
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