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E46 M3 (2001-2006) Engine: S54 - Max Hp: 333 hp at 7,900 rpm / 262 lb/ft at 4,900 rpm
Total Produced: 45,000+ - Years Produced: 2001 to 2006.


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Old Mon, Jun-19-2017, 11:32:07 AM   #11
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Default Re: Just test drove a 1999 996

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I completely agree. It's been a long time since I drove a 996.1 with a 3.4, but I've within the last year driven a 996.2, C4S, and a Turbo. None of them were boring whatsoever.

To those who think the 996 is "ugly", do you dislike the refreshed Turbo headlights? The early lights shared with the Boxster are definitely not good looking, but I don't think the 2002+ (2001 for Turbo) look bad at all. Sure, they aren't round like every other 911, but that's ok because you get all of the enjoyment from the drivers seat where you never see the lights.
Headlights are the biggest drawback in the looks department. But just everything about it didn't age well to me. The interior looks worse than an e36. The only 996 I'd consider are the gt models and for how ugly they are to me, not worth the price. 997 was a huge leap in terms of looks all around.

I'm sure it's a blast to drive when driven hard, but for the price there's others similarly fun without being ugly.
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Old Mon, Jun-19-2017, 12:19:00 PM   #12
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It was a shame, this one was very nice looking, even with the egg eyes. Arctic silver, all seams perfect, clean as they come, no oil underneath, whisper quiet engine with rear bay open going through the range, interior was in near perfect shape, just a beauty. The interior wasn't as terrible as I remembered it, the sports seats were sooo comfy. I just didn't get the sense of urgency at lower rev's that the e46 gives. Certainly at high revs the ass was pushing harder into the seat than the m3, but at mid revs not so, or so it seemed. The engine noise, what the hell... with the doors open it sounds so amazing at startup, then you close the doors, air con goes on and you can't hear a bloody thing, yes I could change exhaust, but the designer should get a smack. The m3 when inside the cabin is quiet when you want, and nice and loud when you nail it, that's the way it should be, in my opinion. I awoke this morning missing the look of that beautiful (imo) machine, it just looked better and fresher than the other 996 i've seen (and most look faded and ugly).
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Old Mon, Jun-19-2017, 12:19:05 PM   #13
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Make sure you test drive one first. I was a bit disappointed when I was considering an e92. I didn't enjoy it anywhere near as much as the e46. It is a fast car though and great for a daily so just suggesting you test drive one first.
Same experience. I had an 2008 E92 M3 then a 2012. Traded in the 12 for a ZCP E46 M3. E46 M3 platform is so much more driving fun.. Suggest driving a 1M before buying an E92 M3.
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haa, man, I'll test drive it first. E90 that is. I just figured the high revving v8 would be a blast. It's the high energy that our M3's deliver that was not there in the 996, e46 m3 is a raw car, we all know that, that's what is exciting about it. It's my first sports car as my old 1.8t a4 could not be considered as such, maybe I just figured they all felt this thrilling on the road.
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I loved my E90 M3 while i had it. Was a great car, that V8 spinning up to the stratosphere is unreal. (S54 is amazing too, but the sound of that V8 phew). I loved that thing on the track, and it was damn near bulletproof.

It is heavy though, and you feel it. 3700lbs and it definitely lets you know haha.
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Old Mon, Jun-19-2017, 06:17:29 PM   #16
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Hi, Tell me, just drove a 1999 never winter driven beautiful 911 Porsche with 60k miles. It just felt slow, heavy in the direction changes, and brakes were not as strong, ......oh yeah, the question, am I the only one who thinks this?
At the track I am faster in a '96 993 and in a 2001 996 than my '05 M3. All were pretty stock except for track pads and NT-05, RE-71, etc type tires. All manuals. P-cars were not mine. I could definitely go faster more confidently in the P-cars. Granted Birmingham doesn't have long straights so the M can't stretch her legs as much. Straight line, my M felt a little quicker but p-cars just kept overall speed up on average at the track.

Only way I describe it is I drive my M3 around the track and and I wore the 911 around the track.

Your experience may differ. At the end of the day though, I still drive my M and haven't bought a p-car.
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I believe it, the 911s of which the 996 is part of (for the purists) all receive terrific reviews. The smooth power delivery, isolation from vibrations and exhaust sound perhaps fooled me into a sense of slugishness. I also didn't want to blow up the guys car as he never replaced the IMS and he and the previous owner sounded like they didn't beat the car, therefore I never took it close to redline. (First thing I would have done was change clutch, ims myself). As for corners, nothing on the test drive could challenge it, the side to side motion seemed less willing to reverse swerve, but I must admit that was a stupid test. Anyhow, miss that car, if one wanted a less expensive 996 in very good shape it was the correct one. (Lady driven in Toronto for 12 years, winter storage, all seals everything in top shape, why not IMS replaced?, silly.)
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...why not IMS replaced?, silly....
It's not silly. The 3.4 engines started with a dual row bearing that doesn't have the same issues as the single row found in the 3.6 liter M96/M97 engines. They changed to the single row at the end of the run with the 3.4 liter cars so some 3.4 have the crap single row bearing and all 3.6 liters have them. The car you drove was a 1999. It didn't need a replacement as it has the dual row bearing.
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996 c4s with rwd conversion (very easy to do) is one of my favorite 911s ever. Best balance of performance and looks. The c4s widebody just looks soooo good. For exhaust just do headers + straight pipes Nothing else compares on a 911 imo. If that's too loud for you just do the fister D mod to the stock mufflers.

All that being said, I prefer the e46 m3 for street driving. Nicer interior, more comfortable, and there's just something about the s54....

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Don't base your opinion of an entire line of cars based off of a single sample.
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