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E90 M3 (Sedan) | E92 M3 (Coupe) | E93 M3 (Convertible) (2008-2013) {Engine: S65 - Max Hp: 414 hp (420 hp Euro) at 8,300 rpm / 295 lb/ft at 3,900 rpm}


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Old Thu, Feb-22-2018, 12:26:00 AM   #1
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Default Thinking about trading up to a e90 M3

Haven't had a M3 since '06 when I had a e36 and regret selling it everyday. I currently have a '15 VW GLI that is a blast to drive, but lacks the boldness and intimidation I'm seeking, plus just about everyone has a Jetta nowadays. From my research I hear a lot of people say the '11 e92/e90 is the best M3 ever because of the normally aspirated V8. I would like to get the 7 speed auto but not afraid of getting a manual. Is there anything I should be aware or should I just keep what I already have? Please don't be afraid to chime in and voice your opinion. Thanks!
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Default Re: Thinking about trading up to a e90 M3

If you want to be conservative, replace the rod bearings. It’s a $2000 shop job. At some point your throttle actuators will fail. They are $600 each plus a couple of hours labor. Otherwise the cars are very reliable. Have had my 08 E90M3 for 8 years.
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Is there any truth to the '11 e90 being the best?
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Default Re: Thinking about trading up to a e90 M3

No. The people who are into looks and entertainment more than performance like the later cars because they have an updated idrive. That started in 09. I think the coupes received different tail lights later. There is also a ZCP Competition Package with bigger wheels and electronic adjustable shocks. I would not be concerned about that either. The wheels are heavy and you can buy even bigger Apex ARC8 wheels for about $1100 on sale. The shocks are expensive and old now. Just buy a set of bilsteins or koni or coilovers — people sell them used regularly when they change cars. The only reason I would want an 11 is that it is the newest E90M3 I could buy. But it is just as out of warranty as an 08, so no protection there. A 13 coupe would be the last year made. My view is that the early cars are one of the best bangs for the buck in performance cars today—you can find them for $20-25k.
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Default Re: Thinking about trading up to a e90 M3

I've been hunting for an E46 M3 for the last 2 weeks. I've driven 4 cars in that time and I gotta say, the 46M ship has probably sailed for me. The rear subframes are cracked, the Vanos' rattle, the rod bearings have not been touched in well over 100,000 miles and the SMG cars (which i love) have no maintenance. The 6-speed cars are $5,000 more than SMG cars. It's a mess out there. Not the mention the sellers. They don't know squat about their cars and they don't do any maintenance. When you ask what an RTAB is, they're clueless. I'm serious. Complete morons when it comes to the big4 problems, not to mention 21 bushings and joints under there, let alone any info about cooling systems.

Hence my migration to the E9x M3 section. The prices are starting to go sub $20,000. Instead of sinking 5-grand of maintenance into a 46M and eventually re-selling to morons, maybe a 92M is the answer and then take the hit in the depreciation area.

When shopping for 9xMs, the 2008s are plentiful. I know the clutch on the manual trannies are different so when they need to be replaced, the flywheel also has to be replaced as an added expense. The rod-bearings would be a fun job for $1,000 in parts. The throttle actuators have cheap replacement solutions now too. That's probably an easy job compared to the rod bearings.

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Default Re: Thinking about trading up to a e90 M3

If you want to learn more, the most active E9xM3 forum is that forum at M3post dot com. I donít knock E46M3, though. Great cars with lots of potential. I am just trying to stay newer for my primary driver though I have had my E90M3 for 8 years and it is now 10 years old so it isnít really newer anymore.
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