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Old Mon, Apr-30-2018, 11:46:56 PM   #21
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Default Re: Ferodo DS2500 brake pads available - "dual use" street/track

Are these still at the top of the hybrid/dual purpose pad game, 10+ years later?
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Default Re: Ferodo DS2500 brake pads available - "dual use" street/track

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Are these still at the top of the hybrid/dual purpose pad game, 10+ years later?
Absolutely, yes. I'm not aware of anything new, in the last decade, that provides a better balance of street and track capability.

The next step up in track performance requires swapping back and forth between dedicated track pads and something tolerable on the street.

You can tell when your skill and/or equipment level has reached the point where you're no longer able to continue with Ferodo DS2500 pads. When pad consumption skyrockets, or when they start to deposit on your rotors, that's the signal it's time to move on.
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Are these still at the top of the hybrid/dual purpose pad game, 10+ years later?
Project Mu HC+ and Endless MX72 shit on DS2500 all day long.
Tried Ferodo DS2500 once, biggest waste of money in my life.
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Default Re: Ferodo DS2500 brake pads available - "dual use" street/track

Mine are fantastic.
I'd suggest coating your wheels with something to deal with the dust, noise is there, but they stop hard even when not warmed up, don't seem to fade on the track, and have had plenty of life. I've had an HPDE instructor, and former professional driver ask what brake kit I had on my car after he drove it. He laughed when I told him all stock other than pads and some fresh fluid.
I'm sure there are some other great options out there, but to "try them once" and call them a waste of money when they have years and years of good experiences behind them, makes me think you had some other issues at hand.
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Mine are fantastic.
I'd suggest coating your wheels with something to deal with the dust, noise is there, but they stop hard even when not warmed up, don't seem to fade on the track, and have had plenty of life. I've had an HPDE instructor, and former professional driver ask what brake kit I had on my car after he drove it. He laughed when I told him all stock other than pads and some fresh fluid.
I'm sure there are some other great options out there, but to "try them once" and call them a waste of money when they have years and years of good experiences behind them, makes me think you had some other issues at hand.
If you’ve ever tracked your car with DS2500 on a high speed circuit, you will experience that after one 30 min session your pedal will go to the floor with very little stopping power although straight line cooling should give some slack for brake system. These are the pads that fade even on moderately paced touge runs.

Mx72 on the other hand is very consistent for 2 hours of tight circuit with lots of mid speed threshold braking. Mine has shown very little fade throughout three hours of Suzuka race day. HC+ on a different car was even better. Mind that these brands provide pads for winning teams in 24h endurance series.

Ferodo Ds2500 uses low steel compound as opposed to carbon ceramic metallic of MX72 or graphite metallic of Hc+. There is simply too much difference in heat capacity and ability to resist thermal distortion. I would rather stick with OEM equivalent than spend the extra $$$ for DS2500. Only alternative I would consider to Endless or Project Mu would be Pagid RS.
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8 track days on mine and haven't had any issues. 3 of those days on a local track thats known for killing brakes at the end of the first straight.
Maybe you're a race car driver that I don't know about. They are just fine for me, and everyone else I know thats used hem.
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8 track days on mine and haven't had any issues. 3 of those days on a local track thats known for killing brakes at the end of the first straight.
Maybe you're a race car driver that I don't know about. They are just fine for me, and everyone else I know thats used hem.
I have domestic class A racing license if that counts.

Seriously though, these are not race pads by any means. If you are not getting any fade with DS2500, that means the car isn't being driven hard enough or the track has enough straights to cool the pads quickly.
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