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E46 M3 (2001-2006) Engine: S54 - Max Hp: 333 hp at 7,900 rpm / 262 lb/ft at 4,900 rpm
Total Produced: 45,000+ - Years Produced: 2001 to 2006.


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Old Tue, Aug-31-2010, 01:33:22 AM   #21
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Buy ZCP/CSL rears (9.5) and get true CSL fronts (8.5), I saw some come up for sale not too long ago, and I would imagine you could order new as well...
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Link to OEM ZCP's from Tischer:

http://www.trademotion.com/partlocat...catalogid=4462

Their customer service is great.
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Old Tue, Aug-31-2010, 01:52:40 AM   #23
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just wondering .. but does the AluFelgen wheels have bmw part numbers print on them from the pictures that AlueFelgen posted.. it sure looks like it.

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Old Tue, Aug-31-2010, 08:23:16 AM   #24
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ok but what about csl rims, where can you got those brand new?
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Old Tue, Aug-31-2010, 11:12:51 AM   #25
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OEM BBS ZCP>>>>>> than any reps on the market including VMR

I did a lot of research on wheels before purchasing the ZCP's for my car. The concavity is outstanding, the quality is perfect. You CANNOT match that with any rep.
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OEM BBS ZCP hands down. They are readily available from Tischer all the time brand new.
what he said
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The reps are, well, reps. I have had the VMR ultra-staggered and they are nice wheels. I now have the BBS ZCPs. Here are the main differences IMO. The ZCPs are:
1.) Lighter
2.) Paint is higher quality
3.) Spokes are much wider
4.) They are BBS so you know the quality is there

Not to take anything away from the VMRs because they are decent for the money, but they are a downgrade from the ZCPs. I think you find that most people agree.

Once you have ZCPs, you can spot reps from a mile away.

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The reps are, well, reps. I have had the VMR ultra-staggered and they are nice wheels. I now have the BBS ZCPs. Here are the main differences IMO. The ZCPs are:
1.) Lighter
2.) Paint is higher quality
3.) Spokes are much wider
4.) They are BBS so you know the quality is there

Not to take anything away from the VMRs because they are decent for the money, but they are a downgrade from the ZCPs. I think you find that most people agree.

Once you have ZCPs, you can spot reps from a mile away.

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And there ya have it

Oh.. and $1695 shipped for brand new ZCPs is a deal.
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VMR's build quality is not inferior.

Look for look, the ZCP's are closer to the CSLs.
i recently switched from the 8.5/10 VMR VB3 to OEM CSL.

i was impressed with the VMR's build quality too.. i ran them for almost 2 years without a single issue. they cleaned up nice and still are in my opinion the best wheels for the money.

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VMRs are good and they are cheaper than ZCP. ZCP looks prettier to me. ZCP spoke angles are perfect. VMR tends to have a rounded curve to the spoke and doesn't cave in as deep as the ZCP rears. Probably a no big deal but I'm weird like that.
this is what caused me to switch from the VMR's to authentic. i know just what you mean about the rounded curve to the spoke from some angles. no one would really ever notice besides someone who knew what they were looking for but it always bothered me. although in terms of concavity i would say the 10in. rear VMR's i had are the same as the OE CSL rear.

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The more I see cars with silver VMR wheels (including my own E36 M3) the more and more I don't like them. They just don't look anything like real ZCPs. And, the extra .5" front width is totally moot... makes no difference in a street wheel other than *looks*.

Now, the matte black or gunmetal reps look very sharp.... totally changes the shape/contour of the spokes.
i agree
ive had VMR's and OE CSL side by side and they are actually very different when you look at them. im going to post up some comparison pictures soon of both of the wheels at the same angles so you can really see the differences. the spokes of the VMR's are thinner along with the center part around the lugs being the biggest difference between OE and the VMR. the lugnut openings of the OE wheels are much larger where the VMR lugholes hug the nut closer. the surrounding part of the center cap protrudes much more on the OE than the VMR.

i also agree the reps being black makes a big difference as its much harder to spot them.

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Check out the Alufelgen CS7 wheels if you are heading the replica route.

http://www.google.com/images?q=alufe...w=1280&bih=683

Many people think they look more like OEM than the VMRs. They're powder coated vs. painted (VMRs). Powder coated finishes are more durable than painted finishes from what I've read. I've also read that the production method Alufelgen uses is stronger than VMRs.

I've been looking at the Alufelgen's for some time now. They're new to the game so not a lot of people have them. I should add that I do not have personal experience with either wheel, I've just done research on both.

Both VMR and Alufelgen have more aggressive offsets than ZCPs, potentially eliminating the need for spacers depending on your taste.

Good luck. As soon as I get a bonus I'm pulling the trigger. Let me know what you end up with.
i looked into the alufelgen before switching out the VMR's for OEM. they are the best reps i have seen in terms of spoke width matching OEM. the biggest downside i realized of the alufelgen wheels is the concavity. i have not seen the alufelgen wheels in person but only in pictures. the fronts look VERY close to OEM but the rear concavity is the downside as there is barely any at all and a dead give away to being non authentic.

if someone could combine the VMR concavity along with the alufelgen look that would really be great

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The reps are, well, reps. I have had the VMR ultra-staggered and they are nice wheels. I now have the BBS ZCPs. Here are the main differences IMO. The ZCPs are:
1.) Lighter
2.) Paint is higher quality
3.) Spokes are much wider
4.) They are BBS so you know the quality is there

Not to take anything away from the VMRs because they are decent for the money, but they are a downgrade from the ZCPs. I think you find that most people agree.

Once you have ZCPs, you can spot reps from a mile away.

Mr. Wolfe
i can always spot the reps now too, especially after owning both. im not trying to put down the VMR's as they are fantastic wheels and i have no regrets buying them.. just trying to post the differences in OE vs. VMR wheels. both wheels look great on the car..

if you're on a tighter budget and the differences dont bother you go with the VMR's .. if you can afford to go OEM you will not regret it.. the quality is amazing!

thank you for reading my long post
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good info in here
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