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Old Tue, Mar-08-2016, 03:38:56 AM   #41
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Default Re: Should I sell my e46 for M2?

I wouldn't worry too much about LCI. Look at the e9x. The 2008's are solid and have only a small change with the tail lights and clutch flywheel (And CCC), but these things are minor.
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Old Tue, Mar-08-2016, 04:20:02 AM   #42
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Isn't this likethe guys who asked if they should sell their E30 M3 for like a E92 M3? Ya 3 generations later is going to be way better, but you might really miss that E46 M3 when it will be really easy to buy a used m2 in a few-several years.
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Old Tue, Mar-08-2016, 12:12:44 PM   #44
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I'll say it again, if you HAVE to ask, then you clearly want it. I for one, don't have to ask this question, hence I'm keeping my e46. Its just too special in my eyes. Looks perfect, sounds perfect its just what I want. I have no desire for a turbo car. BRING BACK THE NAs BMW CAN YOU HEAR ME? guess not.. so I'm keeping my m3. Plus the amount of money time and emotions invested in my car, makes it a no brainer really. The M2 really isn't a pretty car! many wtfs about how it looks. I'd choose an E92 over the M2, I'd never choose an E92 over the E46 M, so there. 1M is too small.. If it weren't my daily The only bmw I'd consider is an E60 M5. That's one riot of a car. The other would be a gt3rs..but that's a different story altogether, for now, its the E46 M3. I agree with what one of the guys here said, I go wash my car, and look it, and I'm head over heals for the e46m3 all over again. It just too damn special.

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Old Tue, Mar-08-2016, 01:25:32 PM   #45
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I totally get the draw of a high revving engine. For years, no for decades, I preferred an engine that can be wound up. When I traded my first '01 e46 M3 for a new '05 WRX STI, I really missed being able to do so. Although the car was cool and I mainly bought it because I needed a 4 door and really couldn't afford a e39 M5 at the time, I did not like the flat torque curve characteristic. After 4 years of that nonsense I went back to a BMW 335i and then a 335d. I think all those years spoiled me driving cars with lots of torque. Not that I don't appreciate my 2nd e46 M3 at all, but it does not have the same affect on me as it did more than a decade ago.

Long story short, I think it is silly to say you hate torque. I would agree with saying that an engine that can be wound up is more fun than one that can't be, but it also needs to have a reasonable amount of torque across the rev band. There are some modern N/A cars that have that, and to me that would be the best of both worlds....revs and low end torque! I don't hate torque, I love it! I just don't want it so much that it chocks the engine once it gets about 5-6k rpm. Maybe that is what you meant, because I kind of doubt you hate torque.
The S62 is pretty good at revs and low end torque, but the result of having the torque is you don't have to use the revs... which makes it a snooze fest to drive hard (comparatively).

The M5 buys some excitement back by being dynamically inept at the limit
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Of course you should buy an M2. Everyone should.

But you should never sell a good E46 M3. No matter what...
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I'd buy a cherry E92 M3 waaaaaaayyyyy before I'd ever consider the M2.

I don't want a turbo. And I don't want an ugly car. What's there to discuss, really? And don't tell me "weight" because in the next breath you'll tell me how badass the 3800lb GT350 is (which it is).
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I'd buy a cherry E92 M3 waaaaaaayyyyy before I'd ever consider the M2.

I don't want a turbo. And I don't want an ugly car. What's there to discuss, really? And don't tell me "weight" because in the next breath you'll tell me how badass the 3800lb GT350 is (which it is).
Now *there's* a good break! If you had to get a brand new car and you're looking at youtube videos and specs like we are here, would it be:

Mustang GT350 @$47,795
-5.2L V8 with 526HP@7500 RPM
-Optional magnetic dampers

M2 @$51,700
-365 HP @6500RPM
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Now *there's* a good break! If you had to get a brand new car and you're looking at youtube videos and specs like we are here, would it be:

Mustang GT350 @$47,795
-5.2L V8 with 526HP@7500 RPM
-Optional magnetic dampers

M2 @$51,700
-365 HP @6500RPM
Side note - I was reading a Penske engineer's input on magnetic dampers and he said they're junk for reason I won't go into here - said it's all marketing.

Anywho - honestly, I'm more attracted to a 2015 Mustang GT with PP than I am the M2. Throw a good suspension on the GT to fix its crappy factory stuff and be done. Cheap and fun and 'hot'. Great sound, great motor.
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Side note - I was reading a Penske engineer's input on magnetic dampers and he said they're junk for reason I won't go into here - said it's all marketing.

Anywho - honestly, I'm more attracted to a 2015 Mustang GT with PP than I am the M2. Throw a good suspension on the GT to fix its crappy factory stuff and be done. Cheap and fun and 'hot'. Great sound, great motor.
I'd like to see it (PM?) - I can see how one would say that for the older setups that are "hard" or "soft", i.e. energized or not, but when they tie it in to the stability control system to reduce/ eliminate noticeable roll, I think it sounds pretty fantastic.
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