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E46 M3 (2001-2006) Engine: S54 - Max Hp: 333 hp at 7,900 rpm / 262 lb/ft at 4,900 rpm
Total Produced: 45,000+ - Years Produced: 2001 to 2006.


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Old Mon, Mar-07-2016, 06:09:31 PM   #21
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Default Re: Should I sell my e46 for M2?

Been discussed here before but since I am hard of hearing and everyone has to repeat things for me, I will repeat myself as well.
I have a 135i so close to M2 for normal driving. Turbo motor has torque everywhere.
Easy to drive and you can be lazy and still have a good drive. E46 M3 takes work to drive and enjoy. Plus E46 M3 is, in my opinion the high point in BMW design. Long before I bought my first BMW I thought it was a nice car.
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Old Mon, Mar-07-2016, 06:41:16 PM   #22
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Default Re: Should I sell my e46 for M2?

I think it comes down to what you want in a car. The M2 is faster and torqier.

It's also laggier and doesn't have steering feel.

The e46 is slower, but lag free, and has tons of feel.

I despise torque in cars I want to have fun driving. It annoys me in my daily (e39 M5), but for a fun car I really don't want it. Working over the engine is way too large of a part of the experience of having fun in a car to me. In fact, I view torque in much the same way as I view automatics-- technically faster, but a vastly inferior experience.

Anyway, I'd say drive if. If you like it better, get it. If you like it less, don't get it.

My decision is a no brainer-- no freaking way. But, were I forced to buy a modern BMW by some strange series of events, the M2 is the one I'd get. It's the least bad for sure.
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Old Mon, Mar-07-2016, 07:45:24 PM   #23
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Default Re: Should I sell my e46 for M2?

I get to see and drive the M2 next week at the Thermal track , I will be sure to drop back in to let you guys know my thoughts between the two given I have a E46 M now.

Although the M2 may handle similarly to the E46, they are such two different worlds when you compare high compression N/A power to turbo. N/A is definitely more fun when you are hauling a$$ and revving the shi* out of the engine whereas turbo cars are fun low end because they have so much torque. I came from a E85 Sti (445 AWHP 440 AWTQ ) and definitely miss the turbo torque rush but every time I rev the S54, it reminds me of why I wanted to go this route, classy with instantaneous responsive power that is also more fun in the canyons.

Also for those wanting to get into an M2 soon, good luck ! LOL! If you don't have deposits already, there is no way you are getting one this year. We have over 22+ folks waiting for allocations currently at my dealership.
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I really don't see the point in buying an M2 when you can get a used Cayman S that just came back from lease. You're getting a lot more car for the money in the Cayman with the flat 6 and the light weight aluminium chassis.
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I really don't see the point in buying an M2 when you can get a used Cayman S that just came back from lease. You're getting a lot more car for the money in the Cayman with the flat 6 and the light weight aluminium chassis.
Great comparison but that Porsche resale sucks since its not a 911 and any M car will retain its value more. Plus Porsche tax on parts is much higher than BMW LOL
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I think it comes down to what you want in a car. The M2 is faster and torqier.

It's also laggier and doesn't have steering feel.

The e46 is slower, but lag free, and has tons of feel.

I despise torque in cars I want to have fun driving. It annoys me in my daily (e39 M5), but for a fun car I really don't want it. Working over the engine is way too large of a part of the experience of having fun in a car to me. In fact, I view torque in much the same way as I view automatics-- technically faster, but a vastly inferior experience.

Anyway, I'd say drive if. If you like it better, get it. If you like it less, don't get it.

My decision is a no brainer-- no freaking way. But, were I forced to buy a modern BMW by some strange series of events, the M2 is the one I'd get. It's the least bad for sure.
agreed. BMW cars are not built the same since the E46 ...
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Great comparison but that Porsche resale sucks since its not a 911 and any M car will retain its value more. Plus Porsche tax on parts is much higher than BMW LOL
The flat 6 Boxsters and Caymans will be going up in value soon as the new models coming out will have turbo 4 cylinder engines. Also the fact that the Cayman has sold so little in the past years should mean that it's a rarer car. The 911 market will be changing soon too since the 911.1 has stopped being produced and it will be the last 911 that is NA and has a MT.

I would keep an eye on used Caymans as I think they will be a desirable car in a few years time.
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sell it and move onto something else, if you dont like the m2 sell it and build another e46...
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The flat 6 Boxsters and Caymans will be going up in value soon as the new models coming out will have turbo 4 cylinder engines. Also the fact that the Cayman has sold so little in the past years should mean that it's a rarer car. The 911 market will be changing soon too since the 911.1 has stopped being produced and it will be the last 911 that is NA and has a MT.

I would keep an eye on used Caymans as I think they will be a desirable car in a few years time.
they are going to go straight down...........cars will be sitting on lots as everyone dumps them....so many are PDK anyway that a manual will hold versus the auto. a NA 911 will become a GREAT buy.
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Default Re: Should I sell my e46 for M2?

Get the M2. This thing is a monster. Look at the stats below. I "stole" this from one of the posts in the Off Topic Section. Credit to Forum Moderator EKaru for providing this. Back to the car, 0-60 in 4.2s and 0-100 in 10s!!!!! A smokin' fast ET of 12.7s in the 1320 is pretty fast. That's probably as quick as a 996 GT3 and/or a 996 Turbo.

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