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E36 M3 (1992-1999) {Euro - S50 B32 321hp @ 7400 rpm} {U.S. - S52 B32 240 hp @ 6000 rpm}
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Old Thu, Aug-31-2017, 06:46:06 PM   #11
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If the rears are included, then it's hard to say no. That's also a COUPE set, not a sedan so he wouldn't be able to use them if the rears are there.
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Old Thu, Aug-31-2017, 07:23:27 PM   #12
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Personally I do not think they are worth it. It's an incomplete set that needs work. If you use them, you'll want the rears too. If you sell them, I doubt you'll get that much. The repair will never match unless you get original fabric. BMW specs out their own shade as far as I'm aware.

I've been looking for a 318is/4 set for my sedan as well. The last super nice nice F/R set in Germany sold for $600. Unfortunately he wouldn't ship it to me (probably would have cost $300).
Thanks for the input. I realize these seats don't meet the standard of most cars on this forum.
A little more on my line of thinking regarding these seats:

I recently started converting my interior to black. I've never been a fan of "dove" gray, but I tolerated it because my interior was in excellent condition. Now that it's showing some wear I don't feel bad pulling it out. I recently replaced my rear seats and door panels...looks so much better imo. These would probably fit well with my mix-match interior.

My car is a street car first, and occasional HPDE car. That means I want to retain factory safety(airbags, 3pt belts, reclining seats). It's not easy finding seats that fit the sedan(b-pilar interferes more than coupe), recline, are comfortable, and sit low enough for a tall driver(I'm 6'3"). I recently sat in a track E36 with reclining Sparco's that fit me and the car, and would allow me to heel/toe without my knees mixing it up with the steering wheel. If I don't get these that is likely the direction I'd be going in, although it would be MUCH more work and $$$. These M-Rain seats would basically be plug and play.

I want my interior to be usable without being so nice that I have to worry about wear. I wouldn't mind buying used seats with wear, as long as they are durable for track use and not falling apart. At this point I don't want a full set of M-Rain. I sometimes throw wheels/tires on the back seats(on a blanket) and wouldn't want to be concerned about destroying rare seats. If I patched the hole it wouldn't bother me if it didn't match perfectly. For the price I think these would be a reasonable option for my needs. I'm very hesitant to buy them without seeing them in person though.
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Makes sense and you'll definitely benefit from a little added seat grip with the fabric. Just make sure they will fit the way you want them to since they are from a coupe. I've never installed coupe seats into a sedan before so I don't know what issues you will face or if the tail end of the seat belt bolt provision is there (probably since so many swap vaders in).
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Coupe seats bolt right into a sedan, but as Braymond mentioned, you do have to swap the belt bracket over to the new seats. It's a big torx bolt IIRC, and will thread right into the coupe frame.

The sliders do have different fore and aft limits, compared to sedan seats. I can't recall with certainty, but I think the coupe seats will move farther away from the wheel, so this would likely be desirable for you. I'm fairly certain they don't go as close to the wheel. It's been many years since I swapped vaders into mine, so my memory is foggy on the details.
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When I installed Vaders in my sedan, I swapped the cushions/covers from the vader (coupe) seats onto the sedan seat frames. So thats an option as well. Especially if you want an oem like install.
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If you like the idea of a reclinable Sparco, I would go that route. It sounds like you track the car pretty often, is that a fair statement? All these OEM seats have next to no bolster support by comparison to a Sparco or Recaro Speed style reclinable seat. TBH my biggest gripe about the stock sports seats on track is what I consider to be weak bolster support and too high a center of gravity. I would imagine the sedan/lux pack style seats are even worse. If you like the OEM reproduction fabric, you could always reupholster the aftermarket seats, which would probably be pretty sick. Recaro Speed with a super low rail would be my choice.

edit: obviously the price point is much different, just saying all things equal it seems like a lateral move to replace what you already have with basically the same seat
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Good to know putting these in my sedan would be fairly straight forward. The cushion swap sounds interesting, but I'd still have the dove seat backs.

I used to hate the stock seats at the track until I got a CG-Lock. It makes the stock seat belt hold you almost as well as a harness. I no longer have to concentrate on bracing myself in corners.

Still waiting to hear back from the seller on shipping.
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Haha oh god I hate those. I'd rather have a seat that holds me in place from the sides of my legs and shoulders than a belt strung too tightly across my guts. But to each their own and I feel you wanting to keep OE.
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Haha oh god I hate those. I'd rather have a seat that holds me in place from the sides of my legs and shoulders than a belt strung too tightly across my guts. But to each their own and I feel you wanting to keep OE.


Haha that's surprising to me. I was impressed with how well the stock belt could hold me in place. I do notice bruising the next day tho lol.


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Good to know putting these in my sedan would be fairly straight forward. The cushion swap sounds interesting, but I'd still have the dove seat backs.

I used to hate the stock seats at the track until I got a CG-Lock. It makes the stock seat belt hold you almost as well as a harness. I no longer have to concentrate on bracing myself in corners.

Still waiting to hear back from the seller on shipping.
FYI, he just listed the seats for sale locally again, so I'd try and seal the deal with him if you want them.
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