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E36 M3 (1992-1999) {Euro - S50 B32 321hp @ 7400 rpm} {U.S. - S52 B32 240 hp @ 6000 rpm}
Total Produced: 71,212 - Years Produced: 1992 to 1999


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Old Sun, Aug-28-2016, 12:17:06 AM   #11
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Lower the trans tail as Tom suggested. You'll get more room to get your hands up there and seat the socket. Just be sure to properly support the tail as you do this and don't come down too much. Mechanical fan will hit the shroud and the motor will hit your blower fan cowl cover.
What was happening is we would get the socket, and extension on only to not find the end on the extension under the car so I could tap it on to seat and add the break bar. It must have been hiding in the insulation material. I tried a few times without luck before the rain.

The car has a fan delete so are you and Tom saying to undo the transmission mount bracket while supporting with the jack and lower an inch...that should provide sufficient clearance to find the extension and have good view? I will need to place the car on all four jack...just worried about the slight slope of the pavement in the apartment.
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Does the 95 starter have the threaded holes for bolts or does it have the backing nuts? I thought the nut version. You should check. If so, you have a bigger PITA. Someone will have to get a wrench on the nuts while you unwind the bolts.
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Old Sun, Aug-28-2016, 02:20:24 AM   #13
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What was happening is we would get the socket, and extension on only to not find the end on the extension under the car so I could tap it on to seat and add the break bar. It must have been hiding in the insulation material. I tried a few times without luck before the rain.

The car has a fan delete so are you and Tom saying to undo the transmission mount bracket while supporting with the jack and lower an inch...that should provide sufficient clearance to find the extension and have good view? I will need to place the car on all four jack...just worried about the slight slope of the pavement in the apartment.
It will lower two inches. No need to support trans. Head will hit firewall. Wobble extensions can help. You wont have a good view unless you have pulled insulation out. This will mostly be by feel.
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Does the 95 starter have the threaded holes for bolts or does it have the backing nuts? I thought the nut version. You should check. If so, you have a bigger PITA. Someone will have to get a wrench on the nuts while you unwind the bolts.
It has the threaded one and replacing with the threaded New Bosch SR0448N from Amazon for $149-prime...looks the same.
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Old Sun, Aug-28-2016, 04:50:11 AM   #15
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It will lower two inches. No need to support trans. Head will hit firewall. Wobble extensions can help. You wont have a good view unless you have pulled insulation out. This will mostly be by feel.
My insulation is in good shape; however, if lowering doesn't offer a better view, I most likely will pass on that and continue what I did today...just feel for the extension...didn't want to mess up the insulation though. I got about six extensions with three wobbles at the end for about 2ft.
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Old Sun, Aug-28-2016, 05:56:04 AM   #16
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You really only need 2 wobble extensions at most. Putting more on just makes it harder to get torque on the bolt. It's a tight space to get at, but totally doable. Tilting it back helps a lot.
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Thanks guys...I got that bugger...I spent 15mins under the car pushing up on the insulation material then; I tried a breaker bar but it wasn't getting any bite according to the angle of the socket and extension. I wasn't getting much torque with the 1/2inch drive ratchet...just not much leverage. So, I had to make a trip to Home Depot and got a 10inch piece of precut pipe to add to the 1/2inch ratchet...that did the trick.

Then comes the rain again!
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Good to hear.

For future, be careful with pipes on a ratchet. Depending on the quality, you can snap the mechanism and wind up with bloody knuckles or cut your hand or arm on something. I find it's best to re-clock the socket or extensions to get the right angle with the breaker bar.

Put a little anti-sieze on the starter dowel pin. That will let it slide in easy, and aid in removal, should you ever need to take it out.
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Good to hear.

For future, be careful with pipes on a ratchet. Depending on the quality, you can snap the mechanism and wind up with bloody knuckles or cut your hand or arm on something. I find it's best to re-clock the socket or extensions to get the right angle with the breaker bar.

Put a little anti-sieze on the starter dowel pin. That will let it slide in easy, and aid in removal, should you ever need to take it out.
Thanks Nick...we (me and helper) were aware that we could have busted more than the mechanism and figured the 1/2inch drive ratchet was robust to take the chance. We tried several times to re-clock the socket and always seems to land right back...and of course all those extensions including the three wobble didn't help. I used three wobble extensions to make sure I have the length.
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It has the threaded one and replacing with the threaded New Bosch SR0448N from Amazon for $149-prime...looks the same.
Bumping this thread as I have a quick question.

I picked up a Bosch SR0448N as you reference and it is listed as an E36 M3 replacement. I noticed it is considerably smaller than the stock starter. This could be because the new ones get the same output in a smaller package but I wanted to checked with anyone who has recently done a swap. I don't want to end up with an undersized starter. BTW, the rebuilt BMW brand is about twice the price.

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