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Old Mon, Dec-20-2010, 05:13:56 PM   #1
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Default How to gain Torque? also some other questions, much help appreciated.

Hey guys, i do not own an M3, but i am looking to into into an 08 6 speed, from a local Dealer, getting an alright deal on it, hopefully better. I love the car, the sound of the V8 and have always had an affinity towards M3's
I currently drive an 07 Subaru STI..i may trade her up or i'll try to keep her.

Heres the question. How can the Torque be increased on the new M's? i mean its really weak compared to the HP number. I'm comming from my car that has 460wtq and 495.5WHP on 93 pump.

I know these are 2 different cars, i'm also looking to hop into a 2005 Porsche Turbo S Coupe, this car may be a steal for around $60k. It has 12k miles on her. Thing is...i love the sound of the V8 and also not sure if getting into a Turbo thats already 6 years old is a wise decision. Someone talk some sense into me please.

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Old Mon, Dec-20-2010, 06:49:57 PM   #2
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Default Re: How to gain Torque? also some other questions, much help appreciated.

The e92m3 will be a dissapointment to you performance wise, since you are coming from those numbers and that car.

e92m3 is approx. 360 whp and 275 wtq (depending on the dyno)

Stick with your car -- looks well setup.
The e9xm3 is more for dd and luxury

The best numbers for these cars are supercharged + meth = 600 whp and 400 wtq
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Old Mon, Dec-20-2010, 07:40:32 PM   #4
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Thanks for the info Mastek. I mean..i wont really complain about the power loss...love the V8 sound..but we will see. Hey ZO6 sounds like a great deal then..but interior lacks.
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Default Re: How to gain Torque? also some other questions, much help appreciated.

Every car is built with a flaw I personally think. The industry has to work together dont they. Corvette, a monster, ugly interior.. M3 been lacking torque since 1986 lmao, been whooping ass since 1986 in everything else. Porsche even angers me with the same body style every year but its a very lovely and uniquely built vehicle!

The cars engine isnt built for that and probably wont be, but with this new 2014 m3 we'll see, since its going to be turboed and the 335's torque is large, then I would assume them going to a turboed engine will increase torque by 20, 25%


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Every car is built with a flaw I personally think. The industry has to work together dont they. Corvette, a monster, ugly interior.. M3 been lacking torque since 1986 lmao, been whooping ass since 1986 in everything else. Porsche even angers me with the same body style every year but its a very lovely and uniquely built vehicle!

The cars engine isnt built for that and probably wont be, but with this new 2014 m3 we'll see, since its going to be turboed and the 335's torque is large, then I would assume them going to a turboed engine will increase torque by 20, 25%


EDIT: To answer the questio, lmao, I would suggest' yes the diff and pulleys and then check back in with us

Very true, yea the Vette's interior is horrid, but what a beast. One day i'll own a Porsche Turbo..God i wish.
Yea im hearing Rumors of the new 2014 M...my buddy told me it would be a v8 Twin..like the X5M..is that true or are they ggoing to work with the new M1 M Platform?
I'm going to see 2 white 08 M3's..now they are both are the 15K mileage. What would be an ideal price, considering i'll be trading my STI. Also one of them doesnt have the CArbon Roof or the Technology package. Is the Techno package really necessary?
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didnt know Porsche made a Turbo S coupe...kinda of a double negative. An S model has all the exterior features of a Turbo with a tweaked motor, but no turbo. All non 4 door porsches are essentially coupes...food for thought
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Gutten..i'm sure you know this..your just trying to be sly and funny, somewhat wise i sense...but Porsche made the 996 in a coupe and Cab in the "S" model....Cabrio if you get lost with that one. Cheers. Thats why i said "S" Coupe.
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Default Re: How to gain Torque? also some other questions, much help appreciated.

Yes they have an "S" turbo. It's more power than the standard Turbo, at least they did with some models.

If you are already complaining about the lack of power, you arne't going to be happy. Stick with what you have or buy a Z06 or something. The motors are rever's, not torque monsters. Not adding torque without adding displacement via mechanical means or FI.
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