This normal for a 6mt clutch?

11b4 · Sun, Mar-19-2017, 06:58:02 PM

Yesterday I noticed what felt like my clutch might be going out? I would shift gears and it felt like I wasn't in gear, felt a bit shorter then normal if that makes sense. But it goes in gear. Then today I noticed it as well. Then when I parked the car, I turned it off and was messing with it. I don't have to push the clutch pedal in and I can shift into every gear with barely any force, while the car is off. I turned the car on and tried the same thing, but I didn't actually put the car in gear because I didn't wanna kill the car. But it felt like it would of took more force while the car is on.
Maybe time for a transmission fluid change?

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Sandeep1212 · Sun, Mar-19-2017, 07:18:40 PM

You can pop it into gear while the car is off with no clutch because nothing is spinning. With the car on and no clutch you will grind, hence the added resistance. That, at least, is normal.

11b4 · Sun, Mar-19-2017, 09:02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sandeep1212

You can pop it into gear while the car is off with no clutch because nothing is spinning. With the car on and no clutch you will grind, hence the added resistance. That, at least, is normal.

That makes sense

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11b4 · Thu, Mar-23-2017, 12:09:34 PM

After a couple days of driving it's getting harder to put in gear. Sometimes i go to throw the stick into gear and it won't go in. So I retry, and it's at the same distance I tried previously and goes in just fine. Any input what part this is

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ctres · Thu, Mar-23-2017, 12:23:06 PM

Possibly a leak in the master or slave cylinder? I don't know if that's common at all in these cars but on other cars it can cause similar issues. How many miles are on your clutch?

Braymond141 · Thu, Mar-23-2017, 02:26:43 PM

Sounds like clutch actuation to me. Your clutch pedal should start to do something earlier in the actuation rather than later at the bottom of pedal travel.

-If you have an aftermarket clutch stop, get that nonsense out of there and put in the OE nub.
-Try to bleed the hydraulics if clutch disengagement is at the bottom of the pedal movement.
-Mechanical side operation wear is an issue with age. Clutch fork, throwout bearing, pivot pin and guide tube all are wear items. Their condition(s) can determine clutch disengagement throw. The disc health doesn't change the engagement range.
-Replacement of hydraulics may be necessary if all mechanical side components have been replaced and if proper bleeding fails to resolve the issue.

Sun, Mar-19-2017, 06:58:02 PM	#1
11b4 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2016 Posts: 828 Reputation: 0	This normal for a 6mt clutch? Yesterday I noticed what felt like my clutch might be going out? I would shift gears and it felt like I wasn't in gear, felt a bit shorter then normal if that makes sense. But it goes in gear. Then today I noticed it as well. Then when I parked the car, I turned it off and was messing with it. I don't have to push the clutch pedal in and I can shift into every gear with barely any force, while the car is off. I turned the car on and tried the same thing, but I didn't actually put the car in gear because I didn't wanna kill the car. But it felt like it would of took more force while the car is on. Maybe time for a transmission fluid change? Sent from my SM-G935V using Tapatalk

Sun, Mar-19-2017, 07:18:40 PM	#2
Sandeep1212 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 2,989 In the garage: '03 BMW M3 Reputation: 0 Location: Toronto	Re: This normal for a 6mt clutch? You can pop it into gear while the car is off with no clutch because nothing is spinning. With the car on and no clutch you will grind, hence the added resistance. That, at least, is normal. __________________ 2003.5 TIAG Black 6MT Gone 2003.5 Carbon Black Laguna Seca Blue SMG Current

Thu, Mar-23-2017, 12:09:34 PM	#4
11b4 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2016 Posts: 828 Reputation: 0	Re: This normal for a 6mt clutch? After a couple days of driving it's getting harder to put in gear. Sometimes i go to throw the stick into gear and it won't go in. So I retry, and it's at the same distance I tried previously and goes in just fine. Any input what part this is Sent from my SM-G935V using Tapatalk

Thu, Mar-23-2017, 12:23:06 PM	#5
ctres Registered User Join Date: Jun 2015 Age: 23 Posts: 359 Reputation: 0 Location: Detroit Metro	Re: This normal for a 6mt clutch? Possibly a leak in the master or slave cylinder? I don't know if that's common at all in these cars but on other cars it can cause similar issues. How many miles are on your clutch?

Thu, Mar-23-2017, 02:26:43 PM	#6
Braymond141 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 19,881 Reputation: 0 Location: Oakhurst, CA	Re: This normal for a 6mt clutch? Sounds like clutch actuation to me. Your clutch pedal should start to do something earlier in the actuation rather than later at the bottom of pedal travel. -If you have an aftermarket clutch stop, get that nonsense out of there and put in the OE nub. -Try to bleed the hydraulics if clutch disengagement is at the bottom of the pedal movement. -Mechanical side operation wear is an issue with age. Clutch fork, throwout bearing, pivot pin and guide tube all are wear items. Their condition(s) can determine clutch disengagement throw. The disc health doesn't change the engagement range. -Replacement of hydraulics may be necessary if all mechanical side components have been replaced and if proper bleeding fails to resolve the issue.

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