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Old Wed, Oct-30-2019, 08:06:24 PM   #1
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Default Toting track wheels with harness/roll bar...

Does anyone know of either a harness bar or roll bar that still allow you to cram an extra set of wheels inside the car when using fixed back seats?

I live in San Diego but like to do some track events in Arizona. About a 380 mile drive each way. I have been driving with stock seats but its time for proper seats/harnesses. Removed the rear seats and usually just throw 3 wheels across the where the bench was and one in the trunk. Don't really want to deal with a trailer.
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Does anyone know of either a harness bar or roll bar that still allow you to cram an extra set of wheels inside the car when using fixed back seats?



I live in San Diego but like to do some track events in Arizona. About a 380 mile drive each way. I have been driving with stock seats but its time for proper seats/harnesses. Removed the rear seats and usually just throw 3 wheels across the where the bench was and one in the trunk. Don't really want to deal with a trailer.

If you have a rear strut bar or X braces then no. Otherwise I have seen some folks with a 4 point bolt in bar that load tires in from the trunk. Does not look fun tho. And they had one tire in the front seat.

Iíve seen alot of folks use roof rack and take it off on track. If i didnít have a trailer thatís what Iíd be doing. Or one of those small tire dolleys you tow behind the car.
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Default Re: Toting track wheels with harness/roll bar...

I used to do that with my Kirk - really anything that doesn't have an X-Brace should be fine - I put two in the trunk and two where the rear seat used to be... it's a workout, though. Hands down, doing that multiple times motivated me to get a trailer
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Default Re: Toting track wheels with harness/roll bar...

I was looking at the Autopower roll bar and it looks do-able, albeit with some acrobatics to get the wheels in and out. They appear to have an option which allows the cross bar to be bolted in and out pretty easily.

I thought about a roof rack but don't love the idea of going 90mph across the desert with that much mass and surface area up there. Same issue with a tire dolly/trailer.. they don't seem well-suited for sustained highway cruising at speed.

I may just have to give it a try and do it as long as I can stomach.

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Get the Brey Krause slider for the passenger seat. It let me scoot the seat far enough forward that I was able to fit 1 265 35/18 Falken Azenis between the kirk roll bar and the seat (really tight fit) and 3 of the same in the trunk with enough room still for a tool kit, jack, and weekend bag. It's definitely a bit of tetris to get the 3 in the rear, but it worked.
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Default Re: Toting track wheels with harness/roll bar...

Not a harness bar, per se, but the Brey Krause R-1246 rear deck harness mount certainly does not impede putting tires in the back seat.

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Not a harness bar, per se, but the Brey Krause R-1246 rear deck harness mount certainly does not impede putting tires in the back seat.





FWIW All of the clubs Iíve run with would not allow 4/5/6 pt harnesses without a roll bar. The only exception is the Schroth Quick Fits and if you did use them it had to be with factory seats.
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FWIW All of the clubs I’ve run with would not allow 4/5/6 pt harnesses without a roll bar. The only exception is the Schroth Quick Fits and if you did use them it had to be with factory seats.
I've done CCA and PCA events with this with no complaints.

Link to the rule you're referring to?

FYI there is one seat other than stock that's been approved for use with the QuickFits-- the seats I'm running (Cobra Nogaros).
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I've done CCA and PCA events with this with no complaints.

Link to the rule you're referring to?

FYI there is one seat other than stock that's been approved for use with the QuickFits-- the seats I'm running (Cobra Nogaros).

http://www.tarheelbmwcca.org/BMW_CCA...Rules_2012.pdf

While #8 is only a recommendation Iíve seen it enforced at onsite tech. Iíve even had my quick fits fail tech even when the written rules allow them.

If youíre solo itís generally not enforced. But most instructors donít like harnesses without roll bar. Iíve even seen an instructor refuse to get in a car because the roll bar was a bolt in one.

Again every club is different but thatís been my experience in the DMV area.
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Default Re: Toting track wheels with harness/roll bar...

you could go bananas like my friend did (his is the yellow TT in the pic). Looks nuts when it's on but it works.
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