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Old Sun, Jan-05-2020, 04:12:26 AM   #11
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Great data, thanks for sharing! Sweet spot for decent compromise with drag vs downforce seems to be 5degAOA and 1/2 gurney. I'm looking at numbers for 140mph as I usually max out at 135 most tracks.
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Great data, thanks for sharing! Sweet spot for decent compromise with drag vs downforce seems to be 5degAOA and 1/2 gurney. I'm looking at numbers for 140mph as I usually max out at 135 most tracks.
I would pay more attention to your max turning speed on your tracks. The drag will be at 1 single point you see the least amount of time.
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I would pay more attention to your max turning speed on your tracks. The drag will be at 1 single point you see the least amount of time.
Good point! Of course, downforce helps more in grip in the turns and making faster times than that lost due to drag in 1 or 2 straights.
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If their results are accurate, their gurney flap isn't helping, at least at a couple of their data points. Adding AoA is more efficient than adding the gurney.
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Albeit theyíre no longer in business, I have a brooks Motorsport elite pro wing and itís fantastic. Could not sing a higher praise of it. My car may be a little underpowered for it but itís study, good fitment, and it looks great . I picked it up on eBay for like $1200 used. Good deal considering itís 2400+ new. Seems a bit overpriced but I heard they were some of the best in the business. Also ignore the tape numbers, I couldnít find my vinyls and I havenít decided on a new set.




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Did it come with the stands? These things were pricey when they were in business, something like $2.5-$3k+?
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Did it come with the stands? These things were pricey when they were in business, something like $2.5-$3k+?


Came with carbon stands and the aluminum. The carbon stands I think were getting damaged by the sun and led to some cracking. The car is with in the garage, the enclosed, or on the track so I donít see how that little of time would affect it.


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Let's throw another wing into the mix, anyone run the sneed4speed full carbon wing?
https://www.sneed4speed.com/e46-carbon-rear-wing/
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