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E36 M3 (1992-1999) {Euro - S50 B32 321hp @ 7400 rpm} {U.S. - S52 B32 240 hp @ 6000 rpm}
Total Produced: 71,212 - Years Produced: 1992 to 1999


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Old Sun, Dec-17-2017, 08:59:13 PM   #1
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Default ZHP steering rack install question

I installed the 330 ZHP rack and I'm now connecting the lower steering shaft/joint assembly. The stock M3 U joint (new) that connects to the rack does not seems to fit. The output shaft from the rack seems a slightly different size than he stock M3 rack.

Stock M3 part is: 32311092949
I think (not sure) the ZHP U joint is: 32301094703

So my question is whether the stock M3 u joint is expected to fit. If not, will the one I listed above (32301094703) fit both the rack and the stock M3 steering shaft/joint assembly (32311159866).

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Default Re: ZHP steering rack install question

Joe, I did the same conversion and used a brand new E36 M3 part number. I screwed up the first one installing it by prying it with a screwdriver. When the second one came in the mail, it slipped on with complete ease. I also lubed the rack male and shaft male portions with some grease. The grease helped slide it on much much easier as well. Insure you use blue Loctite on those screws.
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Default Re: ZHP steering rack install question

I just did this swap last weekend. I chose to retain the stock dust cover on the zhp rack with the "fin". That meant that I had to clearance the e36 coupler on that side. In test fitting it a few times, it was certainly a snug fit, but I didn't notice any mismatch with the splines on the rack vs the coupler. Liberal amounts of antisieze were involved in final assembly. On reinstall, I chose to install the coupler onto the rack off the car, then get the rack into place on the subframe. That let me work it around a bit to attach the steering shaft. It was a little fiddly, but not terrible.

The e46 steering coupler won't fit the e36 steering shaft. The e46 steering shaft seems to have flats on each side instead of splines. You can kind of see it on the prat diagram. http://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/show...diagId=32_0942

I guess you could drill out the rivets and mate the rack side of an e46 coupler to the shaft side of the e36.
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Default Re: ZHP steering rack install question

Thanks. I'll try to use a bit more persuasion on the u joint then. Slips very easily on the stock rack, not on the new rack. I just didn't want to destroy the new rack splines in the process.
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Default Re: ZHP steering rack install question

E36 flex joint fits just fine. I like to swap the E36 shaft cover over as well. Sometimes the joints need to be spread open for install/removal.

I would highly suggest using the turner rack alignment tool. Fantastic for dead center install and even better for alignments (provided your shop will actually use it).

https://www.turnermotorsport.com/p-1...ment-tool-e46/
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E36 flex joint fits just fine. I like to swap the E36 shaft cover over as well. Sometimes the joints need to be spread open for install/removal.

I would highly suggest using the turner rack alignment tool. Fantastic for dead center install and even better for alignments (provided your shop will actually use it).

https://www.turnermotorsport.com/p-1...ment-tool-e46/
Spread open as in driving a wedge in where the u joint is split open?
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Default Re: ZHP steering rack install question

Thanks everyone. It is installed.
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Default Re: ZHP steering rack install question

You need to wedge apart the new joint. I did this a long time ago with an e34 u joint and had the same issue.
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E36 flex joint fits just fine. I like to swap the E36 shaft cover over as well. Sometimes the joints need to be spread open for install/removal.

I would highly suggest using the turner rack alignment tool. Fantastic for dead center install and even better for alignments (provided your shop will actually use it).

https://www.turnermotorsport.com/p-1...ment-tool-e46/
So pull boot, place tool with wheel at center, use bungee to keep tension and adjust tie rods to spec?

Do you personally use this? Iíve been doing my own alignments, but another tool in the aresenal canít hurt.
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