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E46 M3 (2001-2006) Engine: S54 - Max Hp: 333 hp at 7,900 rpm / 262 lb/ft at 4,900 rpm
Total Produced: 45,000+ - Years Produced: 2001 to 2006.


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Old Sun, Oct-13-2019, 04:39:58 PM   #1
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Fascinating.

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Cool, but "starting at" $5,000+ usd scrillo-yikes!
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Cool, but "starting at" $5,000+ usd scrillo-yikes!
Agreed. But still significantly cheaper than a sequential.

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Old Sun, Oct-13-2019, 07:28:10 PM   #4
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Is it not an smg with air instead of hydraulic fluid?

Funny seeing this literally right after watching this guy convert his e55 engine into an automated manual using an air compressor.

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Is it not an smg with air instead of hydraulic fluid?

Funny seeing this literally right after watching this guy convert his e55 engine into an automated manual using an air compressor.
I thought of the same thing, however, the amount of knowledge and straight up R&D time would easily balance out the kind of costs you'd spend on... doing a manual to SMG conversion. Never thought I'd say that.
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Default Re: Want Paddle Shifters w/o a Sequential? Here you go!

I guess I'd get that product if our cars weren't available in anything but a manual.. but I'd think if you wanted paddle shifter you'd just get a car with an SMG in it.
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I guess I'd get that product if our cars weren't available in anything but a manual.. but I'd think if you wanted paddle shifter you'd just get a car with an SMG in it.
Agreed. Only difference would be that SMG technology is over 15 years old, has with dependability issues, and doesn't integrate easily with aftermarket ECUs. But unless you are racing, none of those distinctions makes enough of a material difference to justify the price!

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Agreed. Only difference would be that SMG technology is over 15 years old, has with dependability issues, and doesn't integrate easily with aftermarket ECUs. But unless you are racing, none of those distinctions makes enough of a material difference to justify the price!

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Just because this “new” technology doesn’t have a track record doesn’t mean it’s reliable, or better even.
I agree in principle, though I think it is pretty easy to improve upon SMG.

Just my $.02. I have no affiliation with the manufacturer. Just thought it was cool.

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I certainly didn't see this coming
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