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E46 M3 (2001-2006) Engine: S54 - Max Hp: 333 hp at 7,900 rpm / 262 lb/ft at 4,900 rpm
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Old Mon, Apr-27-2015, 12:42:55 AM   #1
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Default Rear Camber Arm Eccentric Bolt removal help

Went to replace my rear outer upper/lower trailing arm ball joints today and ran into quite the snag.

Was starting with the drivers side outer lower, sprayed the bolt with penetrating spray took off the nut and went to take the bolt out and it just spins. It would appear that the bolt has seized/rusted to the inner ball joint steel and separated from the rubber (proves that the ball joint is in fact toast and leading to my rear suspension issues of floating feeling, poor overall handling etc). Anyways, tried hammering it through... No go. Tried air chisel... No go. This thing is stuck in there for good.

Now my thoughts are to just order new eccentric bolts and grind the bolt off and cut out the rubber to get it out, but thought I would see if anyone else has ran into this issue that may provide a better alternative measure.

Thanks in advance, hope to hear some good replies!


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Default Re: Rear Camber Arm Eccentric Bolt removal help

I had to cut mine off and replace the control arm. I had the whole subframe out so it wasn't a big deal.
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Default Re: Rear Camber Arm Eccentric Bolt removal help

Have run into this issue on my E36 and a buddy's E46. Both times, the solution was a BFH and a bunch of wacks.
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Definitely tried the BFH route to no success, not a lot of room to really get a good hard hit on it, that's why we were trying the air hammer/chisel but it just would not budge!


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Definitely tried the BFH route to no success, not a lot of room to really get a good hard hit on it, that's why we were trying the air hammer/chisel but it just would not budge!


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Try drilling holes into the ball joint and then going back to the hammer? It seriously took two or three friends and I a couple hours to get these suckers out.
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I had to cut mine off and replace the control arm. I had the whole subframe out so it wasn't a big deal.
+1 - Needed to cut mine off too.
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Now my thoughts are to just order new eccentric bolts and grind the bolt off and cut out the rubber to get it out, but thought I would see if anyone else has ran into this issue that may provide a better alternative measure.
It happened to me on both cars I tried to extract lower control arm bolts from. You're going to have to cut it off.
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Default Re: Rear Camber Arm Eccentric Bolt removal help

Hammer blows might do it, but might not. Here in the UK, the camber arms are not expensive so if you end up having to mash up the lot, costs are low ish. The inner camber arm bolts however require the diff to be fully unbolted and shifted up out the way before they come out, b'stards. If the bolt is cut then removing the bushing gets challenging but I've found that the entire inner bushing can be popped out with the bolt if the edge of the bushing outer case is destroyed by a chisel -quite easy actually. Then the remaining casing can be slitted with a std hacksaw. That help?
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My last one was pretty seriously seized but I did eventually get it out with a BFH at the exact perfect angle. I do feel your pain, though, as on the other side I had previously had to buy a whole new trailing arm because an entire day of effort at a garage with every tool imaginable and a fair amount of ingenuity couldn't get the axle out. That was the most frustrating day of my life and is why I have a phobia of axle stuff (ie wheel bearings) to the point where even I will gladly write a check to have someone else do it next time they're due... Just in case.
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