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E46 M3 (2001-2006) Engine: S54 - Max Hp: 333 hp at 7,900 rpm / 262 lb/ft at 4,900 rpm
Total Produced: 45,000+ - Years Produced: 2001 to 2006.


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Old Thu, May-26-2016, 06:01:13 PM   #21
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The tie rods aren't the same length on each side when the car isn't aligned with the wheel centered, so suspension geometry is affected slightly. It's probably not noticeable, and I don't think it would damage anything, but it would bother me because rotating the wheel is a band-aid fix.



Yes they should, but it takes a little bit of effort and some places just don't care.

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Just as a reminder, if your steering wheel is off center, and have the "Triangle of Pain" illuminated, the off center steering wheel is the issue and once you correct the wheel/alignment, YOU should reset the DSC ecm (there's an action for this in pa-soft/IPNA). Once this is done, calibrate the DSC by driving in figure eight lock to lock a couple times, then you should be golden. If not, then you other underlying issue's with your DSC.

Interesting. My dsc light is usually on but for different reasons

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Mine does this, I had someone look at it and they said they could fix it, however, when they went to align it my tie rods where seized so they couldnt do it until i replace those

Now that you mention that, I suspect mine are pretty seized up too. At almost 170k miles it's probably a good idea for me to replace them anyway
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Mine does this, I had someone look at it and they said they could fix it, however, when they went to align it my tie rods where seized so they couldnt do it until i replace those
Ouch, I hand same happen. Just did the whole left and right tie rod assm. and put a metric ton of anti seize of the treads.
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Interesting.. Not that I don't believe you, but if you can answer, what is exactly wrong with just rotating the steering wheel slightly? Is the (steering) wheel centered already with the steering rack, so that right now the tie rods are basically incorrectly adjusted so that the wheels point right slightly when the wheel is straight? I don't see how any tech could think that's ok if that's the case. They should center the steering wheel before touching the alignment, no?
Your steering is off because the alignment is off. Going back and putting the steering wheel off center is like making all of the paintings in a house crooked because the house is crooked.

That, and unless you got an alignment from a performance shop it's very likely they didn't take their time to get everything dead on, and used a rack that hasn't been calibrated in years. I had a similar issue with my last car that wasn't resolved until I went and paid $40 more for someone to just do it right.
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Your steering is off because the alignment is off. Going back and putting the steering wheel off center is like making all of the paintings in a house crooked because the house is crooked.

That, and unless you got an alignment from a performance shop it's very likely they didn't take their time to get everything dead on, and used a rack that hasn't been calibrated in years. I had a similar issue with my last car that wasn't resolved until I went and paid $40 more for someone to just do it right.
Um lets not forget the steering angle sensor. It and the DSC has predetermined dead zone it looks for. Also the clock spring has a dead zone as well. Stop messing with crap and get it aligned, if the first place can't do it, get your money back and hit the next spot.
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Just wondering, what would you guys pay to get such an alignment done? There's a Porsche shop (they service all cars really especially German ones though) near me that I actually used to work at as a porter, I'm sure their alignment is calibrated and working well, but their hourly rate is high and I don't want to pay more than I have to.
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