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E46 M3 (2001-2006) Engine: S54 - Max Hp: 333 hp at 7,900 rpm / 262 lb/ft at 4,900 rpm
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Old Sun, Mar-13-2016, 03:32:33 PM   #1
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Default Advice on Koni Sport Yellow Setup

Hey guys,

Tried searching a bit but could only find info on people using their Koni Yellows as a comfortable OE street replacement or with lowering springs.

At any rate, I am swapping my Bilstein PSS10 setup out for a set of brand new Koni Sports. They will be used with a completely stock suspension (bushings, springs, top hats) for SCCA F-Street. I will have some kind of a front bar to combat roll.

I am looking to be competitive in this class and need some help getting the initial setup down.
- Does anyone have advice on how they set their shocks? Since the rears are kind of a one-and-done adjustment, I'd like to get the stiffness set correctly for auto-x.
- Anyone have recommended alignment setups? Obviously max camber front but what about F/R toe? I've had pretty much zero toe on my STU setup and it ran well.

Handling performance is my #1 priority and can take precedence over street comfort. I am willing to compromise on ride to make the car turn in better. That said, I've heard you don't need/want to get too carried away on the stiffness.

Thanks in advance
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Default Re: Advice on Koni Sport Yellow Setup

The rears are very easy to adjust - about a 30 minute ordeal once you get the hang of it.

I'd start at full soft in the rear while you break them in and see how the car feels then. I doubt you'll see the need for much stiffer since they're well matched to the stock springs at soft.

I have shock dynos in the Fat Cat thread if you're interested.
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Old Sun, Mar-13-2016, 05:34:29 PM   #3
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Default Re: Advice on Koni Sport Yellow Setup

From full soft - 1/2 turn up front, full turn rear. You can always set the fronts stiffer at the track.
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Default Re: Advice on Koni Sport Yellow Setup

Perhaps call Koni and see if you can have a set of Koni sports built that are say 20% "stiffer" by using thicker oil and different internal valving if that's possible. For what you want in Auto-X, controlling pitch and roll is the hot ticket that leads to a better set-up for the next corner, as for stating the obvious. As for your Bilstein set-up, that is what I have; I find that I'm always "two clicks" apart with stiffer front and softer rear, and that's even when I change settings to go from street to autoX.
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From full soft - 1/2 turn up front, full turn rear. You can always set the fronts stiffer at the track.
I've found this to be the optimal setting for me as well.
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From full soft - 1/2 turn up front, full turn rear. You can always set the fronts stiffer at the track.
Pretty much the same for me - 1 1/4 turn rear... started 1/4 turn up front; over time have have changed that to 3/4 turn up front.

Would like to add some f/r Hotchkis Sport swaybars in the near future.
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I know this an old thread but...I installed Koni Yellows and other parts this spring prepping for SCCA Solo II FS class. I set them to: rear 1/2 turn from soft, front 1 turn from soft. I added a 30mm H&R front swaybar and set it to soft (3 settings) and replaced the RTABs. I went for maximum camber front and rear. I wanted -1.7 front and -1.8 rear but didn't get quite that much. Zero toe in front and .2 toe at the rear. 18" Apex wheels with BS RE71-R 245f 275r. My son and I both drive the car and our results are very close. Last weekend 8th of 124 in PAX, 1st of 6 in class. Previous event 13 and 14 of 131 in PAX and 2nd and 3rd of 7 in class.

This is NOT the car to have in FS but our results have been pretty good. Mustangs and newer M3s are goto cars. Double adjustable shocks are allowed but not much else that we can do. The changes listed above transformed the handling and have made it relatively easy to drive fast. I wish we could get some more negative camber. I might take it back to shop after pounding on the suspension for a few events and see what they can do.
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I know this an old thread but...I installed Koni Yellows and other parts this spring prepping for SCCA Solo II FS class. I set them to: rear 1/2 turn from soft, front 1 turn from soft. I added a 30mm H&R front swaybar and set it to soft (3 settings) and replaced the RTABs. I went for maximum camber front and rear. I wanted -1.7 front and -1.8 rear but didn't get quite that much. Zero toe in front and .2 toe at the rear. 18" Apex wheels with BS RE71-R 245f 275r. My son and I both drive the car and our results are very close. Last weekend 8th of 124 in PAX, 1st of 6 in class. Previous event 13 and 14 of 131 in PAX and 2nd and 3rd of 7 in class.

This is NOT the car to have in FS but our results have been pretty good. Mustangs and newer M3s are goto cars. Double adjustable shocks are allowed but not much else that we can do. The changes listed above transformed the handling and have made it relatively easy to drive fast. I wish we could get some more negative camber. I might take it back to shop after pounding on the suspension for a few events and see what they can do.
Did you swap the hats?
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