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E46 M3 (2001-2006) Engine: S54 - Max Hp: 333 hp at 7,900 rpm / 262 lb/ft at 4,900 rpm
Total Produced: 45,000+ - Years Produced: 2001 to 2006.


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Old Mon, Apr-20-2009, 10:33:49 PM   #41
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Would a starter from a 99 M3 fit/work? I know they are different part numbers or look weird but I'm just curious because I have one of those. Thanks.
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Here is what bay looks like with intake manifold removed on SMG.
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Here is what bay looks like with intake manifold removed on SMG.
Wow, it does look tight. Does anyone have one for a regular 6 speed?
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My 02 M3 SMG is at the dealership now getting a new clutch. I just got an email from the SA that when he got the transmission out, he inspected the starter and all but one of the bolt threads are stripped out.(A previous owner must have had it out) Basically, there is one bolt holding the starter in place. He recommends changing it now to avoid the labor cost of doing it later, and they want $556.44 for the part.
I don't have any problems with my car starting, but I am coming up on 70,000 miles on the car. Is there a general consensus on if/when the starters in these need to be replaced? If I am getting close to that mileage point, I might as well do it now. If I don't replace it, I continue to have just the 1 bolt holding it in place. What do you guys think of the price on the part from the dealer. I haven't researched it yet, but should I go with OEM or our there other brands that are recommended?
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Fix it now while you have a chance.. I would work out something with the dealer as in that you buy the part from them and they put it in for free.. this is the easiest time to do this work. Mine gassed out at 85,000 miles.
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Wow, it does look tight. Does anyone have one for a regular 6 speed?
Are you meaning you need a photo of the engine bay with intake removed for a 6speed? It is the same thing less the connections you have with the SMG unit.. it would be easier to take the intake manifold off if you dont have SMG as you wont have fluid and or the connection to the fluid tank to deal with. I have detailed photos of the intake manifold with smg removal if anyone needs those to help remove this part... if you plan on it go ahead and buy the clamps that hold the box on to the throttle body.. they can destroy really easy and they are cheap, 3.00 each.. I bought 8 just in case.. I can do a DYI if anyone needs it on how to remove the intake manifold .
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Are you meaning you need a photo of the engine bay with intake removed for a 6speed? It is the same thing less the connections you have with the SMG unit.. it would be easier to take the intake manifold off if you dont have SMG as you wont have fluid and or the connection to the fluid tank to deal with. I have detailed photos of the intake manifold with smg removal if anyone needs those to help remove this part... if you plan on it go ahead and buy the clamps that hold the box on to the throttle body.. they can destroy really easy and they are cheap, 3.00 each.. I bought 8 just in case.. I can do a DYI if anyone needs it on how to remove the intake manifold .
That DIY would be AWESOME. I am probably going to do this soon, as my car sometimes takes 5 minutes of holding the key in the "start" position to start.

I would really appreciate the DIY. Also, about how long did it take you to do the whole R&R of the starter? I also have 6 speed, not SMG.
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Yes a DIY would be awesome!!!!!

I saw the first page and thought , why would it be so tedious to just change a starter.
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1. Raise vehicle -- front & rear.
2. Disconnect battery.
3. Remove air housing.
4. Remove air-box, airmass sensor, dipstick-tube & intake housing.
starter is now exposed.
5. Remove wiring from stater.
6. Now go under vehicle. Remove exhaust system - complete [ from manifold to
rear box. Don't foget to remove oxygen sensors wiring plugs]
7. Remove bolts for gear-box cross member. gearbox is now lowered at rear.
8. Remove bolts for stater on bell-housing.
9. Stater is now loose.
10. Remove stater from engine bay side.


NB. Make sure locating pin on gear-box bell-housing is alighned with stater & tighten bolts evenly , when assembling.
Oh my.

I have done starters on E46 non-M without removing anything but some underpaneling, a little bracket that's on the way and the starter itself. I can't see why you'd have to remove all that stuff on the M3 unless the starter is at a totally different location.
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look for a DYI post shortly on how to remove Intake Manifold
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Are you meaning you need a photo of the engine bay with intake removed for a 6speed? It is the same thing less the connections you have with the SMG unit.. it would be easier to take the intake manifold off if you dont have SMG as you wont have fluid and or the connection to the fluid tank to deal with. I have detailed photos of the intake manifold with smg removal if anyone needs those to help remove this part... if you plan on it go ahead and buy the clamps that hold the box on to the throttle body.. they can destroy really easy and they are cheap, 3.00 each.. I bought 8 just in case.. I can do a DYI if anyone needs it on how to remove the intake manifold .
Makes sense, just didn't know how bad the situation was with smg vs 6 speed. I have a 6 speed but looking at the pics I can make out the smg lines vs non. So thank you very much for the preview.
A DIY would be absolutely amazing.
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