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Old Fri, Jul-13-2018, 06:12:31 PM   #1
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Default 288/280 or 280/272

Currently I am in the process of doing a 6 speed swap which gives me the excuse to add CAE shifter With that said I am looking to upgrade cams from stock as well as get a CSL intake to put the finishing touches on my NA track/street car.

My question is which of the two cams should I go with 288/280 or 280/272? My goal is to maximize reliability, performance and drive-ability in that order. Also is there any other brand recommended other than Schrick, seems to be the most common.

Below are my current mod list feel free to provide any input on what else might be a good idea to upgrade

http://www.m3forum.net/m3forum/showthread.php?t=592305

Exterior:
- Gloss Black Grills
- Predator Angel Eyes
- APR GTC-300 Wing
- APR Splitter
- Aero Catch Latches

Suspension/Wheels:
- Apex ARC-8 18x9.5 Satin Black (Current Setup)
-Macht Schnell Stud Conversion
- Moton Clubsport
- GC camber/caster plates
GC RSM and rear spring adjusters
-Eibach springs
-Rogue Engineering Race Brace
- GC front and rear sway bars, and adjustable end links
- Powerflex FCAB and RTAB
- Turner rear lower trailing arms (camber adjustable)

Drivetrain:

- AP Racing Brakes 6/4 Piston
- Carbono Intake
- Diffsonline 4.10 Custom LS Diff
- JB Racing lightweight flywheel, CM segmented Kevlar clutch
- AA DME reflash
- Jet Hot Header, Larini High Flow Cats
- UUC Rear Exhaust
- Custom Painted Valve Cover
- Heat Foil Wrapped Air Box


Interior:

- Sparco Pro 2000 seats
- Sabelt 6-pt harnesses (HANS on driver side)
- Custom BimmerWorld Four-point roll bar
- AIM Solo DL w/ Canbus connection included)
- Sparco Wheel
- Sparco Hub
- Rogue Engineering Quick Dis-Connect
-Custom Horn button
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Default Re: 288/280 or 280/272

I get a 4XX error on that dropbox link.

What's the car's purpose? Track stuff/ DD? I'd look into cooling if you haven't already
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I get a 4XX error on that dropbox link.

What's the car's purpose? Track stuff/ DD? I'd look into cooling if you haven't already
Updated the link to the for sale thread I bought it from. What would you recommend a oil cooler haven't had any issues on the track but it cant hurt I was thinking I would add one if I went the SC route. Which one would you recommend?
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Default Re: 288/280 or 280/272

Do a CSF oil cooler if you plan to track the car even if you stay NA. It helps a lot with oil and coolant temps. Upgraded radiator isn't really needed, but I would delete the mechanical fan and clutch and replace with an electric fan. The mechanical fan has a tendency to explode the fan blades and damage other stuff including the hood.
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Do a CSF oil cooler if you plan to track the car even if you stay NA. It helps a lot with oil and coolant temps. Upgraded radiator isn't really needed, but I would delete the mechanical fan and clutch and replace with an electric fan. The mechanical fan has a tendency to explode the fan blades and damage other stuff including the hood.
Agreed. CSF does a great job, helps with overall engine temp, and doesn't require AN lines
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Is CSF oil cooler overkill for a non dedicated track car? Would assume it's harder to get up to proper temp range on a dd highway cruiser.

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@op - in case you haven't seen this thread, a lot of good info on comparing, who does tunes, what works, etc.

http://www.m3forum.net/m3forum/showthread.php?t=593802

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@op - in case you haven't seen this thread, a lot of good info on comparing, who does tunes, what works, etc.

http://www.m3forum.net/m3forum/showthread.php?t=593802

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Is CSF oil cooler overkill for a non dedicated track car? Would assume it's harder to get up to proper temp range on a dd highway cruiser.

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There's a thermostat. It doesn't open until the oil gets up to temp, so no, it won't hurt anything.
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Thank you I am in your debt. you hear anything good about cats cams?
Just whatever is in the thread. I'm not chasing the N/A motor build, so maybe someone else could add their thoughts.

Once you are ready, and more importantly if the group buy is ready, can check this out:
http://www.m3forum.net/m3forum/showthread.php?t=594416

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