BMW M3 Forum
BMW M3 Forum BMW M3 Gallery BMW M3 Reviews BMW M3 Social Groups BMW M3 Chat M3Forum Sponsors >>
Loading


Mobile M3forum
Go Back   BMW M3 Forum.com (E30 M3 | E36 M3 | E46 M3 | E92 M3 | F80/X) > BMW M3 Discussions > E46 M3 (2001-2006)
Tire Rack Buy Winter Tires Now!
Not a member? Register Now!
Register Gallery All Albums Garage Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read Calendar FAQ

E46 M3 (2001-2006) Engine: S54 - Max Hp: 333 hp at 7,900 rpm / 262 lb/ft at 4,900 rpm
Total Produced: 45,000+ - Years Produced: 2001 to 2006.


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old Sun, Dec-23-2018, 04:38:48 AM   #1
shimps1
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2018
Posts: 29
Reputation: 0 shimps1 is on a distinguished road

United States




Default Purchase Opinions

Hey everyone,

I have been in the market for an E46 M3 for a while now, and I have finally chased one down. I have a deposit on it and am planning on purchasing it this week, but I'm curious if the experts here could take a peek.

It has had it's rod bearings replaced, at about 6k miles, in 2005. I had it inspected by an independent BMW mechanic and everything came back favorable, no subframe cracks or VANOS concerns. Minor wear on the top and a couple scrapes on the wheels. Understandable for the age.

Since I am buying sight unseen, I am pretty nervous on this. If you see anything on this or have an opinion on the car, it would be great to hear. I am specifically looking for a manual convertible, so the fact that it's not a coupe doesn't bother me.

Here is the car.

Jump to top shimps1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Register now and remove these ads
Old Sun, Dec-23-2018, 05:01:51 AM   #2
bostonbruck
Registered User
 
bostonbruck's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Posts: 367
In the garage:
Reputation: 0 bostonbruck is on a distinguished road
Location: Iowa City

United States




Default Re: Purchase Opinions

You can pay a company $100-200 to go out and inspect the car. This car could be either
flawless or it could need $10,000 of work. I would pay for someone to check out the car
or have them take it to a shop of your choice for a pre purchase inspection.
Appears to come with 0 maintenance records and hasn’t had any major maintenance items
taken care of. Rod bearings last about 100k so within a few years it may be time for those again. Just get it inspected and post the results on here. I’m not saying it’s a bad car, but
I am not certain it’s a good one.

Do you want to settle with a gray interior? Many owners regret this. I would
keep looking unless this car is in perfect condition
. You can find we’ll sorted examples on the forums. I would even prefer a
higher mileage one (100-130k) with major maintenance done, rather than a 70k mile with
no maintenance.

Good luck and post your decision here.
__________________

2002 Jet black 6MT Coupe Beisan Vanos, Gloss black grills, F10 M5 knob, Supersprint Race Muffler, Powerflx rtabs, maintenance

Last edited by bostonbruck; Sun, Dec-23-2018 at 07:59:50 AM.
Jump to top bostonbruck is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Sun, Dec-23-2018, 03:12:19 PM   #3
shimps1
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2018
Posts: 29
Reputation: 0 shimps1 is on a distinguished road

United States




Default Re: Purchase Opinions

Inspection below. They noted tires need replacement due to flat spotting causing vibration. The wear on the top mentioned is also minor, they sent me pictures of it separately.

What is so bad about the grey interior? I'm completely neutral on it. What makes people regret it?

Edit: Can't get photos to work, inspection is here.

Last edited by shimps1; Sun, Dec-23-2018 at 03:17:43 PM.
Jump to top shimps1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Sun, Dec-23-2018, 03:45:12 PM   #4
tjkenny15
Registered User
 
tjkenny15's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 1,073
In the garage:
Reputation: 0 tjkenny15 is on a distinguished road
Location: Tysons Corner, Virginia

United States




Default Re: Purchase Opinions

Front or rear tires? Probably could use the RTABs replaced and an alignment performed.

That grey interior is stunning. There is no settling with that interior. A lot of forum members aren't fans of grey but they tend to be the more vocal ones.

Feel free to PM me if you need any additional help/ advise. Looks like a solid purchase.
__________________
2005 BMW M3 INDIVIDUAL - Estoril Blue
Jump to top tjkenny15 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Sun, Dec-23-2018, 04:37:12 PM   #5
M3AZ
///M3AZ
 
Join Date: Jun 2018
Posts: 286
In the garage:
Reputation: 0 M3AZ has disabled reputation
Location: Phoenix

United States




Default Re: Purchase Opinions

Price seems a bit steep for a convertible. You mention no VANOS or subframe concerns, but what is that based on? Has the subframe been reinforced? Did the inspection include a VANOS test? Oil analysis?

Between the subframe, VANOS, and rod bearings you’re looking at $10k in future repairs.

As someone mentioned a car with higher mileage may be better. Odds are this car has the original alternator, starter, cooling system, suspension bushings. Those are pricey repairs if you don’t DIY.
Jump to top M3AZ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Sun, Dec-23-2018, 04:42:11 PM   #6
shimps1
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2018
Posts: 29
Reputation: 0 shimps1 is on a distinguished road

United States




Default Re: Purchase Opinions

The rear subframe was inspected and free of cracks, but not reenforced.

VANOS test was not explicitly performed but the shop that did the inspection is a BMW specialist and they said it looks good. They have also done some of the regular maintenance on the car and said it's clean and well taken care of.
Jump to top shimps1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Sun, Dec-23-2018, 05:07:56 PM   #7
Jaredomin
....
 
Jaredomin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2018
Age: 21
Posts: 981
In the garage:
Reputation: 0 Jaredomin is on a distinguished road
Location: strong island

United States




Default Re: Purchase Opinions

Looks really clean good luck!
Jump to top Jaredomin is online now   Reply With Quote
Old Sun, Dec-23-2018, 05:17:21 PM   #8
WOLFN8TR
/// MONEY \\\
 
WOLFN8TR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 2,171
In the garage:
Reputation: 0 WOLFN8TR is on a distinguished road
Location: Las Vegas

United States




Default Re: Purchase Opinions

Quote:
Originally Posted by M3AZ View Post
Between the subframe, VANOS, and rod bearings youre looking at $10k in future repairs.

$10K seems a bit steep for those items unless you are taking it to the BMW dealer for those.

DIY and its approx $3000
BEARINGS- $500
VANOS- $1000
SUBFRAME- $1500

I purchased my 2005 M3 SMG on eBay with 93k on it for $17k two years ago. Had a BMW specialty shop do a PPI. Shipped it from Kansas to Las Vegas. Absolutely love the car and its been trouble free so far and has 127K on it now. Good luck, it looks really nice.
__________________
Build Thread - S54 Vanos Thread

BAVSOUND Stage 1 - UltraGauge - Valentine One - Orion V4's - ARC-8's
TTFS Engine/SMG Tune - SGT Headers/Sect 1/SCZA - Evolve Eventuri
VIS XTS CF Hood - CF Lip/Console/Diffuser - OE CSL Trunk - BWS 500S 9k/11k
Jump to top WOLFN8TR is online now   Reply With Quote
Old Sun, Dec-23-2018, 05:34:54 PM   #9
umichchris
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 302
Reputation: 0 umichchris is on a distinguished road
Location: Long Beach

United States




Default Re: Purchase Opinions

Verts are the cheapest of the bunch. Since it's at a dealer lot, you're paying a premium vs private sale so that's part of the higher pricing.

But honestly, you can find a more exclusive color combo + service records for that price range. Just depends on if this is your dream color set-up or not. Car looks good though!
Jump to top umichchris is online now   Reply With Quote
Old Sun, Dec-23-2018, 05:42:45 PM   #10
lmtfi
Registered User
 
lmtfi's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 7,559
Reputation: 0 lmtfi is a jewel in the rough

United States




Default Re: Purchase Opinions

Quote:
Originally Posted by shimps1 View Post

and everything came back favorable, no subframe cracks or VANOS concerns.

Everything came back favorable? Either it is an INCREDIBLY, INTENSIVELY maintained car - or your inspector did a "Once over lightly" cosmetic look. I'm pretty sure its the latter.
__________________
Jump to top lmtfi is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump



All times are GMT. The time now is 08:32:01 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
M3Forum.com and M3forum.net is in no way sponsored, endorsed or affiliated by or with BMW NA / BMW AG or any of it's subsidiaries or vendors.
BMW and M3 (E90 M3 | E92 M3 | E93 M3 | E46 M3 | E36 M3 | E30 M3) are registered trademarks of BMW AG.
M3Forum Terms of Service
Copyright 1999-2017 M3Forum.com
Discussing Blackstone results not good in the E46 M3 (2001-2006) Forum - Engine: S54 - Max Hp: 333 hp at 7,900 rpm / 262 lb/ft at 4,900 rpm
Total Produced: 45,000+ - Years Produced: 2001 to 2006. at BMW M3 Forum.com (E30 M3 | E36 M3 | E46 M3 | E92 M3 | F80/X)