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E36 M3 (1992-1999) {Euro - S50 B32 321hp @ 7400 rpm} {U.S. - S52 B32 240 hp @ 6000 rpm}
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Old Tue, Apr-10-2012, 08:36:40 PM   #31
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Default Re: 99 Estoril on Sand Beige - Front Vader Leather Replacement

They look great considering the foam is 14 years old. Sandbeige Vaders are very rare, so it's cool that you saved them rather than replacing them with a different color seat.

I think all US E36 M3s had "Nappa leather" (correct me if I'm wrong), but lesser US E36s had other types. My sandbeige nonvader driver's seat has lots of cracking and some serious wear on the outer driver's bolster. I'm going to look at some non-M3 sandbeige sport seats that are in good shape for possible transplant of parts of the passenger seat cover to my driver's seat. I realize they won't be Nappa, but if the color matches and the texture is close, I might go for it. It's better than worn and cracked original leather.
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I think all US E36 M3s had "Nappa leather" (correct me if I'm wrong), but lesser US E36s had other types.
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Due to supplier issues, BMW was no longer able to produce sufficient quantities of the Black (N5SW) or Light Grey (N5TT) Nappa leather interiors for the North American-market E36 M3 sedan beginning in March of 1998. Therefore, these E36 M3 sedans received the lower-grade Bison leather from the normal E36 3 Series and a "leather credit" refund (listed as Option Code S996A on the build sheet) of several hundred dollars was applied to their MSRP. M3 sedans with Bison leather can be identified by M stripes on all four headrests, as the Bison leather did not include the usual M stripes on the seats themselves. E36 M3 sedans with a Mulberry, Magma or Modena Natur Nappa leather interior continued to be produced with no alterations.
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Sand Beige is very rare. I have never seen another Estoril/Sand Beige car in photographs or in person or even in for sale ads.

OP: I highly recommend getting a set of black floor mats. They'll really spice up the interior.
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Old Tue, Apr-10-2012, 09:16:34 PM   #34
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I think all US E36 M3s had "Nappa leather" (correct me if I'm wrong), but lesser US E36s had other types. My sandbeige nonvader driver's seat has lots of cracking and some serious wear on the outer driver's bolster. I'm going to look at some non-M3 sandbeige sport seats that are in good shape for possible transplant of parts of the passenger seat cover to my driver's seat. I realize they won't be Nappa, but if the color matches and the texture is close, I might go for it. It's better than worn and cracked original leather.
In 1995, the Vaders (M3 sport) were Montana leather. You can tell by the extra stitch on the vader headrest.
A donor seat won't work. You need a leather piece slightly larger because the stitch holes can't be reused.
What you want are donor seats from the back seats. There is a ton of leather back there. You can find a set for $100 usually. Back and bottom.

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Sand Beige is very rare. I have never seen another Estoril/Sand Beige car in photographs or in person or even in for sale ads.
OP: I highly recommend getting a set of black floor mats. They'll really spice up the interior.
I think Badgtho has an Estoril/Sand combo on this other forum. He got a little feisty here and left.
http://www.dtmpower.net/forum/e36-m3...-get-bent.html
I like the Black Mat idea!
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98 Arctic on Grey 4dr - Sold 3.18.13 Brandon driving it
98 Estoril on Grey 2dr - Sold 8.6.12 Thy sold it
99 Estoril on Sand 2dr - Sold 7.31.12 Eric modding it
98 Arctic on Grey 2dr - Sold 3.10.12 Kyle driving it
96 Techno on Black 2dr-Sold 6.13.09 Ross totaled it

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Old Tue, Apr-10-2012, 09:21:02 PM   #35
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I think Badgtho has an Estoril/Sand combo on this other forum. He got a little feisty here and left.
http://www.dtmpower.net/forum/e36-m3...-get-bent.html
I like the Black Mat idea!
Ben's car was Estoril/Mulberry. It's Estoril/Black (cloth) now. I've met him, and seen his car

Black mats are commonly put in on Modena/Magma interiors to break up the interior a bit - I'm sure it would look great on Sand Beige too.
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Default Re: 99 Estoril on Sand Beige - Front Vader Leather Replacement

Yep, +1 on the black mats, I did so early last year and will not go back to the quick-to-get-dirty Modena mats. Some members have mentioned that the black mats transfer (dye) onto the carpet underneath but I have not had this issue.
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Maybe this one? I watch it and I get scared. I can always do it later. First I'm going to see how the headrests age on some warm days.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...v=MTZpRiLq_TA#!
Wow, that is incredible.
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Overall, this is a fantastic DIY that I will remember in case I decide to drop $$$ on replacement seat leather.

I would have corrected the foam issue with strategic use of scissors, spray adhesive and donor foam of similar compression, such as from junkyard seats. I've spent too much time rebuilding Recaro seats in the past and that technique delivers good results for fixing compressed or even crumbly foam.
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Default Re: 99 Estoril on Sand Beige - Front Vader Leather Replacement

Braymond- Thanks for the info on US seats. I stand corrected there.

As for my worn driver's seat, if the seats I'm going to look at are in good shape, the color matches, and the texture is close, I may just transplant the entire cover onto my seat. I'd have a shop transfer the M stripes from my old backrest cover to the replacement.

I'm very careful when I sit down in my car (ie, I don't plop down into the seat and I don't sit down and then twist my legs into the car) but I know the driver's seat is only going to wear more, no matter how careful I am.
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Well....... I'm 95% done. Honestly, I think it turned out better than average. I now realize I am not a professional upholsterer. Some tweaks can be made, but this is basically it.
40 hours (20 research and 20 labor) and $1,300 later, I have the seats mounted and operational. Is it me or do power seats sit a bit higher? Also, I think power seats only weigh about 5lbs more each. I've always been a light-weight, manual kind of guy, but the power is kind of fun!
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97 Byzanz on Magma 4dr - Sold 7.7.17 Jerad in CO
98 Estoril on Grey 4dr - Sold 9.23.13 Garrett driving it
98 Arctic on Grey 4dr - Sold 3.18.13 Brandon driving it
98 Estoril on Grey 2dr - Sold 8.6.12 Thy sold it
99 Estoril on Sand 2dr - Sold 7.31.12 Eric modding it
98 Arctic on Grey 2dr - Sold 3.10.12 Kyle driving it
96 Techno on Black 2dr-Sold 6.13.09 Ross totaled it

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