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Old Sun, Jul-22-2018, 07:21:20 PM   #1
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Default Heat while on boost with ESS 575 kit

Hello, I just got a ESS 575 kit on my car and when driving spiritedly the coolant temp started creeping to the 2nd dot. Before it got to crazy I let off the gas and temp went back down after a bit. Oil temp was pretty good sitting in the middle. Currently I am running a Mishimoto radiator, SPAL fan, Motorsport thermostat, new coolant, ESS intercooler, and CSF oil cooler.

Granted it was 84 degrees and I was running the AC at the time. I am wondering a few things, especially folks who have the same kit. Does your temp generally stop at the 2nd dot? Or are you normally running dead middle?

I am thinking of just going all out and getting the Zionsville competition radiator to cool things off. Anybody have any thoughts on whether that will help alleviate the problem? Any other suggestions to deal with the temp creep?

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Hello, I just got a ESS 575 kit on my car and when driving spiritedly the coolant temp started creeping to the 2nd dot. Before it got to crazy I let off the gas and temp went back down after a bit. Oil temp was pretty good sitting in the middle. Currently I am running a Mishimoto radiator, SPAL fan, Motorsport thermostat, new coolant, ESS intercooler, and CSF oil cooler.

Granted it was 84 degrees and I was running the AC at the time. I am wondering a few things, especially folks who have the same kit. Does your temp generally stop at the 2nd dot? Or are you normally running dead middle?

I am thinking of just going all out and getting the Zionsville competition radiator to cool things off. Anybody have any thoughts on whether that will help alleviate the problem? Any other suggestions to deal with the temp creep?

Thanks!


You might have not bled your coolant properly and or your thermostat is not functioning properly. Also verify your ac fan is working properly and the spal fan is also working properly.


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Old Sun, Jul-22-2018, 09:18:52 PM   #3
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Default Re: Heat while on boost with ESS 575 kit

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You might have not bled your coolant properly and or your thermostat is not functioning properly. Also verify your ac fan is working properly and the spal fan is also working properly.


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Hmmm...I will rebleed for sure. Thermostat is about 2 weeks old so I figure that is good. But I do like the idea of checking out the AC fan. Thanks for the ideas!
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Default Re: Heat while on boost with ESS 575 kit

I have the same issue as you. Mine goes even higher, it has left the car untrackable. Honestly its barely drivable around town on hot days.

I have:
Zionsville radiator
Dual 16" electric fans (one push, one pull)
lots of custom ducting to get as much air through the radiator and not around it.
Vented the hood.
Bimmerworld oil cooler (oil temps not an issue because coolant temp goes up so quick.

I have a VAC stage 3 engine build
Super Sprint V2 stepped headers, HJS cats and a corsa exhaust.

I've pretty much given up. I may try a lower boost pulley, and if that doesn't work remove the kit. The cars no fun if you can't drive it.
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Old Fri, Aug-31-2018, 04:28:19 PM   #5
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Default Re: Heat while on boost with ESS 575 kit

you guys solved your problems?
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Old Tue, Sep-18-2018, 04:46:22 PM   #6
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Default Re: Heat while on boost with ESS 575 kit

No, I think its an issue with the cylinder head design. I don't see it is fixable.

Likely why Evolve never released a kit and the Dinan one while intercooled only made 420hp or something super low.

The fix is removing forced induction or not trying to do anything more than one 3rd gear pull and don't drive it i the summer in traffic.

My kit will likely be removed in the spring. While its stupid fast, its proclivity to overheating makes it pretty useless. There is an off chance i'll try low boost, but honestly that HP level is really not worth the hassle.
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Default Re: Heat while on boost with ESS 575 kit

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you guys solved your problems?
No, I am still having issues.

I have the:

-Zionsville Offset Competition Radiator with buit in SPAL and shroud
-New thermostat (NOTE: Seemed to run cooler with Motorsport thermostat)
-CSF Oil Cooler
-New Waterpump
-Bled several times with 70/30 coolant mix. No bubbles. (I am thinking of also adding Purple Ice or Water Wetter, but the horror stories of brown crap in the radiator is off putting).
-Flossman Vented Hood
-There is no coolant in the oil. Oil is clean. No smoke. So no blown head gasket.

I am at my wits end on what else to do to control the temp on acceleration. While it could be the head design, I read about people with the exact same kit running stock coolant system and the car runs dead in the middle of the temp gauge.

I am at the point I am thinking of adding a water sprayer system to try and use evaporation to help cool the motor at speed.

Car runs absolutely fine both in temp and what not at normal highway speeds. However, if you put your foot down, that temp need will rise.

I am going to reach out to ESS to see if they have any ideas on how to control the temps. If anybody else has ANY other ideas I would appreciate it.
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Old Sun, Sep-30-2018, 09:40:37 PM   #8
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Default Re: Heat while on boost with ESS 575 kit

I'm having the same issue running a Dinan kit with vortech supercharger and the associated intercooler and other goodies dinan stuffed in there. If the temperatures get north of 85 or 90 I have to turn off the AC and even then when I go to work over a big hill (blasting the heater) at high altitude (about 9000 feet) I barely make it over the top before hitting red on the coolant. Oil temps stay about 210. I was considering what my options might be, but your situation makes me less than hopeful. Especially seeing as I figured a vented hood would make a drastic improvement.
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Old Mon, Oct-01-2018, 12:08:53 AM   #9
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Default Re: Heat while on boost with ESS 575 kit

Weird. I have the ESS 550 with stock cooling system, aux fan removed, and fan clutch replaced with stock 330i fan. Dead middle, sometimes just under.
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Default Re: Heat while on boost with ESS 575 kit

Interesting. I wonder if it could be something as simple as bleeding the cooling system? My oil temps are much more stable and never experience the temperature increases that my coolant does.
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