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E46 M3 (2001-2006) Engine: S54 - Max Hp: 333 hp at 7,900 rpm / 262 lb/ft at 4,900 rpm
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Old Sun, Dec-06-2009, 06:12:32 PM   #1
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Default ashtray/cigarette lighter DIY removal and replacement

i replaced all my plastic console pieces including the ashtray a while back and i must have put the cig lighter back together wrong since it doesnt work and when you put a new fuse in, it blows immediately

cant find the DIY for removal again

can someone point me in the direction - i know there was a thread on here that i followed the first time


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From what I remember, it was very simple!

remove the shift boot, remove the screws inside the shift trim, remove the 2 screws holding the bottom of the cigarette lighter trim, you have to remove the eye-glass holder by squeezing the top/bottom of it so it pops out and then there are 2 remaining screws behind that and the whole thing comes out.

I will try to find the DIY as I remember learning this trick from there. But from what I remember, the trickiest part is to remove the eye-glass holder without scratching or cracking it.

here's one, but its not as descriptive.

http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthr...e+glass+holder

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From what I remember, it was very simple!

remove the shift boot, remove the screws inside the shift trim, remove the 2 screws holding the bottom of the cigarette lighter trim, you have to remove the eye-glass holder by squeezing the top/bottom of it so it pops out and then there are 2 remaining screws behind that and the whole thing comes out.

I will try to find the DIY as I remember learning this trick from there. But from what I remember, the trickiest part is to remove the eye-glass holder without scratching or cracking it.

here's one, but its not as descriptive.

http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthr...e+glass+holder

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thanks - yeah i got it out in less than 5 minutes -- thing is i cant figure out what i did wrong when i originally removed and re-installed the actual cig lighter -- maybe i bent the metal prongs (i still have trouble removing the metal cig lighter from the black plastic housing) when i tried to get it out

the current situation is this -- everything appears to have been put back together correctly, the two wires (grounds?) are plugged in -- but the cig lighter doesnt work - it blows the fuse immediately meaning something aint right, right?

anyone have thoughts ? maybe i need to order a new cig lighter (just the metal piece) and reinstall
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The two wires are power and ground, you haven't swapped them over have you? Brown is ground, power is probably red with a black/white trace.

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just did the same thing actually (but i removed my cig lighter and put in a usb power source and replaced the fuse)... the red wire with yellow tracers goes on the bottom prong and the brown wire goes on the other. unless the actual cig lighter is messed up or if your wiring harness is nicked somewhere and being shorted out (had this happen in my old car) or if you get a penny stuck in it (seen it before) you should be fine.
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The two wires are power and ground, you haven't swapped them over have you? Brown is ground, power is probably red with a black/white trace.

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im pretty sure you can only put them on one way -- the wires are different sizes and have different types of clips

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just did the same thing actually (but i removed my cig lighter and put in a usb power source and replaced the fuse)... the red wire with yellow tracers goes on the bottom prong and the brown wire goes on the other. unless the actual cig lighter is messed up or if your wiring harness is nicked somewhere and being shorted out (had this happen in my old car) or if you get a penny stuck in it (seen it before) you should be fine.
the only thing i can think of is when i originally removed the metal cig lighter, it took a lot of force, maybe i smashed the prongs a bit or something
if not, maybe its a nicked wiring harness
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doubt you nicked the wiring harness unless you were messing around back there, pulling and pushing the wires(i nicked it during my head unit install in my old car). But a damaged cig lighter would do it, i destroyed mine when removing it and i think you might have done the same. i would say pick up a new one for a few bucks

but another thought...

when you said you place the new fuse in, does it blow right away with nothing drawing power from the cig lighter or with something pluged in?

if it blows with something pluged in try using a different fuse because the item plugged in might be sucking up to much power and blowing the fuse. just an idea..

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doubt you nicked the wiring harness unless you were messing around back there, pulling and pushing the wires(i nicked it during my head unit install in my old car). But a damaged cig lighter would do it, i destroyed mine when removing it and i think you might have done the same. i would say pick up a new one for a few bucks

but another thought...

when you said you place the new fuse in, does it blow right away with nothing drawing power from the cig lighter or with something pluged in?

if it blows with something pluged in try using a different fuse because the item plugged in might be sucking up to much power and blowing the fuse. just an idea..

good luck

ill give it a shot -- how do you remove the actual cig lighter metal housing from the black plastic it sits in ?

dont know the answer to the question since my mechanic tested the lighter - and told me it blew the fuse - not sure if it blew when he pressed the lighter or when he replaced the fuse
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Yeh, I thought the spades might be a different size. You should be able to see if you've done any damage that's causing the lighter socket to short. Anyway you can confirm if it's the socket or the wiring causing the problem by unplugging one of the wires- probably the red one'd be better, off the back of the socket.

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Yeh, I thought the spades might be a different size. You should be able to see if you've done any damage that's causing the lighter socket to short. Anyway you can confirm if it's the socket or the wiring causing the problem by unplugging one of the wires- probably the red one'd be better, off the back of the socket.

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how would this confirm anything ?
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