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E36 M3 (1992-1999) {Euro - S50 B32 321hp @ 7400 rpm} {U.S. - S52 B32 240 hp @ 6000 rpm}
Total Produced: 71,212 - Years Produced: 1992 to 1999


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Old Tue, Apr-10-2018, 02:01:16 PM   #11
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Default Re: Anyone running Sport Cup 2s?

What is the wear like on the PSC2 if you were to used them on the street for a weekend/toy car that is not daily driven?

How much use could you get?

This would be a NO-NO using these in clear cold weather?

Would these be better then the r888 using them on the street for a weekend/toy car?

Also how would the PSC2 compare in terms of performance and usage against the RE-11?

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Default Re: Anyone running Sport Cup 2s?

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Makes sense. I've been super happy with my NT01s. I'm on day 9 now and they're still going strong and still fast. I like the RE71R but find it is much less temperature resistant than the NT01. Makes sense, because street tire.

I've been debating going with the Maxxis RC-1 due to contingency, but I've also heard mixed reviews. I haven't used the R888Rs since I know people are very polarized by the R888 (one -R).

The PSC2s could be pretty interesting. If they fit in between the Hoosier and NT01 regarding price, grip, and wear, that would be very tempting.

Really though, for my speed aspirations, a $600 shipped set of 4 NT01 during Discount Tire sales is super hard to argue against.
I have tried one set of the maxxis rc-1 and I think they are really good tires. Most of my HPDE work has been on 255/40r17 nt01, which I also love. Picked up a set of RC1 and I think I have 25 or so heat cycles in them and they have some life left. For reference, I have never driven more than 30 heat cycles before the nt01s cord, generally closer to 24, so 6 days. That says a little about my driving style so take that for what it is worth.

RC-1 vs. NT01 behave quite differently. The Nittos are much more "playful" and come into their own with some slip angle. A very progressive tire that behaves more like a street tire at the limit and is very predictable at/beyond the limit. The RC-1 behave more like a slick as you approach their limits. By that I mean they are "snappier" when releasing and are less predictable beyond the limit. In a slow second gear hairpin type corner (turn 11 at cota comes to mind) with the nittos, I can very easily get the car to over steer smoothly to rotate the car and I know exactly when they will regain traction. The RC-1 sticks slightly better, releases less smoothly and regains traction less progressively. Overall the RC-1 rewards a tidier line, while the nittos will let you have a lot of fun and still turn in a quick time. I will have to look at the data, but I think my personal best at COTA was on the RC1 in the first weekend I used them. For me it will come down to which I can get cheaper when I need new tires.

OP - I would try the nittos and see how you like them. They should be significantly cheaper than the mpsc2.
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I talked to a race shop I work with and he may consider the PSC2 as a test on his E36 race car. They're only 0.4" wider than the RE71Rs.
Yea I mean .4" is kinda a lot when it comes to tire clearance though. Would be wise to measure first.

I am quite sure the Cup 2 is a great tire, I am just looking at it from an economic standpoint.
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What is the wear like on the PSC2 if you were to used them on the street for a weekend/toy car that is not daily driven?

How much use could you get?

This would be a NO-NO using these in clear cold weather?

Would these be better then the r888 using them on the street for a weekend/toy car?

Also how would the PSC2 compare in terms of performance and usage against the RE-11?


The PSC2 wear quite well for the performance they provide. Defnitely wear less than NT01 or R888. I cannot comment about cold weather performance.

If you are looking for a high traction tyre for street use and occasional track use, I would highly recommend NT05. But they have very poor performance in wet conditions.
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Yea but do we think the Cup 2 grips better than an R compound? It very well could, it's a much newer compound than the NT01. I have no seat time with the Cup 2 so it's hard to sit here behind a screen and guess lol.

OP: be a hero and do it, film some laps and repot back.
Cup2s are more comparable to something like a AD08R than an R comp.
But they wear much faster than the Advans. I killed a set in 2500kms and one track day. I was getting 10,000kms and 10 track days out of AD08s.
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