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E36 M3 (1992-1999) {Euro - S50 B32 321hp @ 7400 rpm} {U.S. - S52 B32 240 hp @ 6000 rpm}
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Old Mon, Apr-09-2018, 05:07:58 PM   #1
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Default Anyone running Sport Cup 2s?

Does a 255 Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2 tire fit on an E36 without rubbing? Based on specs, the 255 will be around 10.2" wide. My current tire is an RE71R 245 that is around 9.8" wide. I have a mild roll and it seems like I have enough space. Anyone try this tire?
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Default Re: Anyone running Sport Cup 2s?

Why do you want to spend that much on sub-Hoosier track tires instead of the tried and true NT01 / R888s?

To actually answer, it will probably be fine, but will depend on your wheel offset + wheel width + ride height + alignment + spring rate. If the 245 RE71R fits, the 255 PSC2 might. If the 255 RE71 fit, the PSC2 probably will. Unless their tire sizing is Hoosier-level "math is hard".
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Default Re: Anyone running Sport Cup 2s?

I don't imagine many guys are running this tire because of the price, and because NT01s and AD08 Rs exist.
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Default Re: Anyone running Sport Cup 2s?

Thanks guys. I'm just exploring options right now; trying to think a bit out of the box. The people I run with absolutely hate the R888s; in their mind they're much happier with the RE71Rs. I'm also looking into the NT01s as an alternative.

I have friends that use the Sport Cup 2s (on 911s) and the grip seems epic compared to an RE71R. As expensive as they are, they are still far cheaper than Hoosiers (checked today on Tire Rack) and I believe they will last a bit longer.

I'm also curious about the new Direzza III.
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Default Re: Anyone running Sport Cup 2s?

Makes sense. I've been super happy with my NT01s. I'm on day 9 now and they're still going strong and still fast. I like the RE71R but find it is much less temperature resistant than the NT01. Makes sense, because street tire.

I've been debating going with the Maxxis RC-1 due to contingency, but I've also heard mixed reviews. I haven't used the R888Rs since I know people are very polarized by the R888 (one -R).

The PSC2s could be pretty interesting. If they fit in between the Hoosier and NT01 regarding price, grip, and wear, that would be very tempting.

Really though, for my speed aspirations, a $600 shipped set of 4 NT01 during Discount Tire sales is super hard to argue against.
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Default Re: Anyone running Sport Cup 2s?

Yea but do we think the Cup 2 grips better than an R compound? It very well could, it's a much newer compound than the NT01. I have no seat time with the Cup 2 so it's hard to sit here behind a screen and guess lol.

OP: be a hero and do it, film some laps and repot back.
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Default Re: Anyone running Sport Cup 2s?

Well, to me the RE71R feels like it has the same peak grip as the NT01, it's just far less consistent over a session IMO.

Tires have come a long way in the last few years. The PSC2s are 'R' compound tires in the 80tw range so they should be at least as fun as NT01s.

I agree with Nate though, OP-- do it and take data! Be the guinea pig....
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Default Re: Anyone running Sport Cup 2s?

The 2's are actually 180 TW rated now. LOL. They seem to hold up well though. I have a friend with a 991.1 GTS running PSC2s at WGI at 2:04 so he is moving. I believe he get 5 event days (~20-25 heat cycles) + a few thousand miles of driving to/from the track and around town. I've also seen his Harry's Lap Time data and the G's are pretty impressive.

I talked to a race shop I work with and he may consider the PSC2 as a test on his E36 race car. They're only 0.4" wider than the RE71Rs.

I don't have much luck with the RE71Rs lasting very long. That being said, there is a rebate on them and the price seems to have dropped a bit now that the D3s are out. It's around $600 shipped.

I will definitely give the NT01 a try...

I may be the one trying this. I still have other things to pour money into the black hole that my car build is! At least the car ran flawlessly from a full frame up/rotisserie build with parts from my totaled M3!
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Default Re: Anyone running Sport Cup 2s?

I have used both NT01 and Cup2 and I liked the NT01 better.

The old PS Cup tyres were better than both.
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Default Re: Anyone running Sport Cup 2s?

I have used both NT01 and Cup2 and I liked the NT01 better.

The old PS Cup tyres were better than both.
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