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E36 M3 (1992-1999) {Euro - S50 B32 321hp @ 7400 rpm} {U.S. - S52 B32 240 hp @ 6000 rpm}
Total Produced: 71,212 - Years Produced: 1992 to 1999


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Old Mon, Apr-02-2018, 11:43:57 PM   #1
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Default Keep Rouge SSK or go back to OEM

hey all.... just wanted to see what you folks thought.....

bought a used M3 .... 1999 with 140k on it... it has a Rouge SSK but its a bit sloppy and i wanted to redo the bushings...

is it worth keeping the Rouge kit? i have no record of when it was installed or how many miles are on it and from what i gather it has wear some wear components that cannot be replaced

or just go back to OEM and get the Z3M components?

I am not really trying to save money here... just want to do it right. Also just figured if I have everything out now would be the time to swap it if need be
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Default Re: Keep Rouge SSK or go back to OEM

Most shifter slop is from the selector rod itself. I would get a double shear selector rod first before replacing the entire shifter. You don't have to take everything apart to replace the selector rod either, it's pretty accessible.
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Will a DSSR fit with the rouge ssk without modification?


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Most shifter slop is from the selector rod itself. I would get a double shear selector rod first before replacing the entire shifter. You don't have to take everything apart to replace the selector rod either, it's pretty accessible.
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Default Re: Keep Rouge SSK or go back to OEM

I’d keep it. When the components are fresh, it’s one of the best SSKs out there for an E36.
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Default Re: Keep Rouge SSK or go back to OEM

Yeah that does sound more reasonable.... so then just a basic shifter bushing service...

does that Rouge SSK have wear components other than the OEM bushings that you are aware of? I am hoping the actual ball joint isn't worn out... again i have no idea how many miles is on this thing

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Iíd keep it. When the components are fresh, itís one of the best SSKs out there for an E36.
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Default Re: Keep Rouge SSK or go back to OEM

I'd keep it, I think they shift great and compared factory.
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Will a DSSR fit with the rouge ssk without modification?
I do not know, but worst case you just have to file the mount down.
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Default Re: Keep Rouge SSK or go back to OEM

You can rebuild the rogue ssk just as you can an oem one. Get the shifter cup with some sriffer bushings, grease itnall up and get the TMS rear shifter carrier bushing.

I love my rogue octane ssk and am currently adding the TMS piece to finish it off
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Most shifter slop is from the selector rod itself. I would get a double shear selector rod first before replacing the entire shifter. You don't have to take everything apart to replace the selector rod either, it's pretty accessible.
The selector rod joint foam bushing is the primary cause of slop. DSSR isn’t necessary as any noticeable slop is not the selector rod to begin with.

Refresh what you have and keep it. Do all wear items, not just the foam bushing mentioned. Consider delrin shift carrier bushings too.

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Default Re: Keep Rouge SSK or go back to OEM

Thanks! so to confirm this is what i'll do....

new OEM shifter cup/ball bushing
new OEM selector rod joint BMW-25117580281
new OEM shifter arm bushing BMW-25111222015

as for the Delrin bushings.. i believe Rouge's piece has that stock when you buy it..... the question is do they take oval or round?

I have yet to pull the shifter assembly.... will be doing next week when i can get on my buddies lift


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The selector rod joint foam bushing is the primary cause of slop. DSSR isnít necessary as any noticeable slop is not the selector rod to begin with.

Refresh what you have and keep it. Do all wear items, not just the foam bushing mentioned. Consider delrin shift carrier bushings too.
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