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E36 M3 (1992-1999) {Euro - S50 B32 321hp @ 7400 rpm} {U.S. - S52 B32 240 hp @ 6000 rpm}
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Old Tue, Feb-13-2018, 03:06:43 AM   #31
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Joe are you telling me the muffler I ordered doesn't fit either?!?! *Has a heart attack*
There are a couple threads on this. It fits. It just doesn't fit the stock hanger as well as it should. The good news it that it is way lighter than the stock muffler so less stress on the mounts.
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Joe,

I just got mine back from Swaintech...

They look awesome! Thanks for the recommendation!

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Old Sun, Apr-01-2018, 02:16:52 AM   #33
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Not fun but quite a lot of learning. I REALLY wish I had pre-fit everything before the engine went back in the car. I'll never again assume something fits. I did get them on sale. But not 1/2 off. Not this past Christmas, but the one before that. They been sitting in my garage for a while.

I just test fitted the muffler. You would think that welding on a couple muffler hangers that well align with the stock mount would be relatively easy. But you would be wrong. This is pretty well known but annoying just the same. Clowns.
I mentioned this in another thread but for anyone reading this and wondering next time you see an ECS/Turner sale on e36 supersprint stuff, go and spend your money somewhere else.
Junk products and the vendor doesn't care as long as they have your money.
As well as the header->mid flanges not lining up, the rear muffler hangers are very questionable. Apparently tolerances for this part were as accurate as a weather forecast.
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Old Sun, Apr-01-2018, 05:47:01 AM   #34
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Thats so disappointing to hear. I've always thought their stuff was supposed to be some of the best. Certainly some of the best exhausts I've heard. Makes me happy I ended up with the eisenmann on my car.
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Exactly the thread I did not want to find. Know you mentioned the header mid-pipe issue in my other thread but a muffler issue too?
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Exactly the thread I did not want to find. Know you mentioned the header mid-pipe issue in my other thread but a muffler issue too?
To be clear, the muffler issue is not a huge deal (IMO). You have to fiddle around to get the fit right. I ended up using some spacers and a longer bolt to get alignment right. The stock mounts are set a bit too wide. You could use as is but there would be stress pulling the mount to a more narrow position. SS could have fixed this by simply adjusting the welded on hanger. As I mentioned, the muffler, at least the race muffler, is way lighter than stock so there is less weight on the hanger. Plus, I could handle the muffler under the car while on a creeper messing around with the adjustments. With the stock muffler this would have been very difficult.
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Muffler issue just compounded the rest of the headache. Not a big deal but there's enough stress on the mount to weaken it faster and cause more side to side movement under load which then causes the tips to hit the side of the stock black plastic "diffuser" piece on the M bumper. It's just not something one would expect of a top-tier company/product. At least it sounds ok?
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Did you mock up the exhaust on a bench before you installed it? I just did mine and flanges on both headers sit on a flat plane when bolted to the mid pipe. Realize alignments change when things are actually installed but just wishful thinking at this point.
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Did you mock up the exhaust on a bench before you installed it? I just did mine and flanges on both headers sit on a flat plane when bolted to the mid pipe. Realize alignments change when things are actually installed but just wishful thinking at this point.
I did not and it was a mistake. My engine was out and I could have checked the mid pipe to header fitment with the headers installed. That is the biggest lesson I came away with. I would have seen that the mid pipe flanges needed work and that, after attaching the mid pipe, one header touched the transmission case. One of the threads I read, someone cut off the mid pipe flanges and re-welded with correct fitment. A lot to do but so far the best solution I have seen I kind of wish I had done that but it is all installed now.
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I did not and it was a mistake. My engine was out and I could have checked the mid pipe to header fitment with the headers installed. That is the biggest lesson I came away with. I would have seen that the mid pipe flanges needed work and that, after attaching the mid pipe, one header touched the transmission case. One of the threads I read, someone cut off the mid pipe flanges and re-welded with correct fitment. A lot to do but so far the best solution I have seen I kind of wish I had done that but it is all installed now.
Thatís my plan if I run into issues; cut it off and have it rewelded.
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