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Old Wed, May-17-2006, 06:08:03 PM   #1
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I was thinking... Wat if they make an M Button for the E90 and E92 M3?
Like its 330 horsepower and then you push it it becomes 425 horsepower....
It wud save Gas for sure...

If anybody find proof of this happening or not happening please post here...
I hope it happens lol
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I was thinking... Wat if they make an M Button for the E90 and E92 M3?
Like its 330 horsepower and then you push it it becomes 425 horsepower....
It wud save Gas for sure...

If anybody find proof of this happening or not happening please post here...
I hope it happens lol
Why would it save gas for sure? It doesn't in the M5/M6. It is a gimmick in those cars, and would be in the M3 as well.
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i thought the m5/m6 have that and also have a feature in the idrive to put the max output in hp.. i would think it saves gas
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nope, same mileage either way.
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Why would it save gas for sure? It doesn't in the M5/M6. It is a gimmick in those cars, and would be in the M3 as well.


Any evidence of why this won't save gas? You're getting 100 less horsepower, meaning less gas since there is less power to feed. Just my thought, though...am I wrong?:nixweiss:
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The only way it theoretically would save gas is if you were being limited to the 400hp, compared to with it set in the 500hp mode and you using more than the 400 horsepower. More power takes more gas. But why not just depress the throttle less if you need less power, than some button which will artificially limit it for you. I put about 50 miles on a 06 M5 last night, and even cruising on the fwy, the thing was only getting about 17mpg. Furthermore, unless you shift down to 3rd gear, there really is a very very soft torque curve. If you didn't see the specs, in 90% of your driving, you would think the M3 is much quicker. The engine note is definitely different. At part throttle, it almost sounds like a V8 with a cylinder miss. At 2500RPM, in 1st gear, give a M5 heavy throttle, not much happens, at least the M3 snaps you back against the seat a little. My next car will not be a M5 now. Its just not my style. It is smooth though, and the SMG trans is much smoother than the current M3. I will have to see how the new M3 drives.
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The only way it theoretically would save gas is if you being limited to the 400hp, compared to with it set in the 500hp mode and you using more than the 400 horsepower. More power takes more gas. But why not just depress the throttle less if you need less power, than some button which will artificially limit it for you. I put about 50 miles on a 06 M5 last night, and even cruising on the fwy, the thing was only getting about 17mpg. Furthermore, unless you shift down to 3rd gear, there really is a very very soft torque curve. If you didn't see the specs, in 90% of you driving, you would think the M3 is much quicker. Then engine note it definitely different. At part throttle, it almost sounds like a V8 with a cylinder miss. At 2500RPM, in 1st gear, give a M5 heavy throttle, not much happens, at least the M3 snaps you back against the seat a little. My next car will not be a M5 now. Its just not my style. It is smooth though, and the SMG trans is much smoother than the current M3. I will have to see how the new M3 drives.

Right, but we still agree on the same point that 400hp WILL use less gas as opposed to being in the 500HP M-Mode. I'm not implying that I'd use that to save gas, just wanna make the point clear to the previous poster.
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Right, but we still agree on the same point that 400hp WILL use less gas as opposed to being in the 500HP M-Mode. I'm not implying that I'd use that to save gas, just wanna make the point clear to the previous poster.
Dont think so .... Your saying that simply by being in the "400hp" setting will reduce gas mileage. You could be in the 500hp setting and manualy control how much gas your using and stay under 400hp. Same thing.

Take two identical M5's....line them up one in 400hp mode and the other in 500hp mode. Then you start driving. The guy in the 400hp mode is stomping on the gas while the guy in the 500hp is feathering the throttle and driving smoothly....Mr. 500hp setting would get better gas mileage.

Or just have the two cars drive 10 miles at the same speed. It wouldnt matter which car was set at 400. Both used same gas to get 10 miles if driving at the same speed.

A flux-capacitor however WOULD reduce gas mileage obviously.
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Okay but if you are driving a car normally the 400hp car would be a less pain in the ass and use less gas, because if ur driving the 500hp car normally on the road ur not gonna keep it below a certain rpm unless in break in period well i kno i wouldnt so with that being said unless im goin to race someone off the line id put it in 500hp if in everyday use id keep it at 400hp
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I have an e60 m5 and have found that driving in 400hp mode does tend to save gas. I am not saying that is due to the engine regulations or anything but you drive differently with 500hp under your foot.
I posted this question about the M button a while back, but it had nothing to do with gas milage. As we talk about on the m5 forums, if you can afford the car you can afford the gas. The coolest thing about the M button is all of the maximum settings. S6 is not something that is confortable driving around in all the time. The shifts are violent and very very fast, p500 is good to drive around in but p500s is a bit unecessary in city driving. And of course you have you DCS and MDM settings set to don't try me levels. You can go from a fast sports sedan to Gallardo killer with the push of one button, and that my friends is the coolest part of the M button.
I think it will be integrated in the new M3 and I will happily use it as soon as I get mine
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