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E46 M3 (2001-2006) Engine: S54 - Max Hp: 333 hp at 7,900 rpm / 262 lb/ft at 4,900 rpm
Total Produced: 45,000+ - Years Produced: 2001 to 2006.


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Old Tue, Dec-13-2005, 06:07:19 AM   #11
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i think it looks better when the outer rings lights up all together when you brake normally
without the outer ring, the spherical LED effect looks less full
Speedracerlo is right and I agree, without the outer ring, the spherical LED effect looks less full. The mod I wrote up makes the outer ring light up everytime you apply the brakes. Regardless of how hard you push the pedal. I personally think that this is a good thing.

You see, other drivers out there won't know that the outer ring means "Hey, I'm REALLY stomping on my brakes now, look out!" I'd rather have the maximum brightness every time I brake. Just my 2 cents.
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nice DIY. thanks! this beats the $120 solution that someone else had previously...

could you not just solder the wire to the #4 just as easily?? (and save $20)
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Old Tue, Dec-13-2005, 04:48:20 PM   #13
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could you not just solder the wire to the #4 just as easily?? (and save $20)
Not really, since the plug itself is plastic. Look closely at the pics I took. The wire has a slim chrome connector on it crimped on the end (that I cannot find anywhere). It slides into the plastic slot #4 and clicks in place. The end of the metal connector has a very small pin hole that the pin on the tail light slips into. Look closely at the parts (if you have them) and you will see what I mean.
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Not really, since the plug itself is plastic. Look closely at the pics I took. The wire has a slim chrome connector on it crimped on the end (that I cannot find anywhere). It slides into the plastic slot #4 and clicks in place. The end of the metal connector has a very small pin hole that the pin on the tail light slips into. Look closely at the parts (if you have them) and you will see what I mean.

I beleive those are Molex female pins- not sure what size. Here is a link..

http://www.action-electronics.com/molex.htm

Nice write-up btw. I have the led tails already, but I also prefer to be fully lit!

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great diy writeup tigerdave, thanks

i just installed the leds last night (quite an easy diy) , but have not done the enabling of the outer rings yet. i also have done lots of research on m3f, e46fanatics, roadfly etc. and i knew i wanted to do the led retrofit but wasn't sure which option i wanted to take on the adaptive/outer ring issue:

(1) leave as is (no adaptive braking, no additional cost)
(2) have outer ring light up ALL the time when braking (achieved by splicing into an existing wire on the led adapters, maybe $5-10 additional cost depending on where you buy parts)
(3) buy a third party solution enabling true adapative braking (having outer rings light up only on hard braking/abs activation, this would make the leds work the same way stock 03.5 models and later work, also the most expensive option, can cost $50 to $100 or more depending on who you buy from)

SO, after much thought I've decided to go w/option #2.. that way my brake lights (outer rings) will always be as bright as possible whenever I brake and it will only cost me a few extra bucks on top of the led kit.

let me know if anyone has q's about the mod as i did do quite a bit of research before pulling the trigger on this mod.. but its a great one thats worth the time/money imo !
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how much is the led OEM tail kit and where can I order?
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you'll find the best prices at:

- Pacific BMW
- Circle BMW
- Crevier BMW
(google them to find contact info phone #s etc)

I got mine from Crevier (if you go with them ask for Vaheh in parts) for about $510 shipped.. everything you'll need arrives in one box. a breeze to install, took me about 45 min.


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I beleive those are Molex female pins- not sure what size. Here is a link..

http://www.action-electronics.com/molex.htm

Nice write-up btw. I have the led tails already, but I also prefer to be fully lit!

Joe
Nice site. Yeah, it's a Molex connector. Problem is, which one? Plus, the female pins are sold in bags of 50 for $6.95. Might as well just buy a second pair of adapters from BMW for $20 to save time and make sure you know you're getting the correct female pins. :nixweiss:
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I got mine from Crevier (if you go with them ask for Vaheh in parts) for about $510 shipped.. everything you'll need arrives in one box. a breeze to install, took me about 45 min.
Got mine from Vaheh at Crevier too. He was extremely helpful and everything I needed was in the box. Piece of cake install. The hardest part was getting behind the trunk liner to access that 3rd 10mm nut!

You can e-mail him at:
vbashikian@crevierbmw.com
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sent you an email from your website.

I am interested in the "dummy" package to make my outer rings light up.
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