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Old Wed, Nov-28-2012, 01:01:34 AM   #1
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Hey hey!

I'm doing some preventative maintenance on my car and trying to get it ready for a few autox events and eventually track events for 2013. There are quite a few HPDE's listed (Buttonwillow, Willow Springs), but I've never been out on autox or track and I would prefer to get a few autox events under my belt so I could learn car control before heading out to the track.

I know the 510 club has stuff at Marina, though I haven't seen updates for the 2013 season. Any other autox events around the area? I'd be willing to travel down to LA as well.

Also, I'm wondering if it'd benefit me to sign up for BMWCCA or other clubs. Ideally, I would like to hit a few autox events next year and maybe one or two track days. That would really be my extent of driving events.

Any recommendations on track day event companies when I do look for track stuff? I'm looking at running at Buttonwillow.

Any input would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!
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I would probably just hit the track instead AutoX. As far as I know, there are track events that are for beginner as well with instructor on the side. I'm in the same boat, and which is what I plan on doing.
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I was thinking about this, but I would prefer to learn how to control my car at the limit in cornering situations before taking on track duty.

Either way, I think it would be fun to start with autox.

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Why pay to drive in a parking lot when you can do it for free? Jk, but seriously most people find autocross pretty boring. Just hop out on a track day as a beginner and your life will be changed forever, and so will your wallet. Check out Speed Ventures. They run both a auto x and track days. I've never gone out with BMW CCA but hear good things. They are priced more then others but I hear you get a instructor and it's well organized. Most of the 2013 schedule isn't posted yet. Hope that helps
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You'll have more track time during a HPDE (beginners are always welcome, driving instructors are very good to learn from) and won't have to work the course to pick up cones at an Auto-X. I like both but ever since I got a taste of what HPDE was like, the M3's power is more usable there and a lot more fun than Auto-X.

$ to actual track driving time, HPDE is bang for your buck. 4-5 sessions which are usually 20-25 mins each vs. Auto-X 3-4 runs which are under 1-2 mins long, a lot of down time also.

I've had great experiences with NASA and NCRC. So far I like NCRC better because of pricing and very organized group of folks.
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Why pay to drive in a parking lot when you can do it for free? Jk, but seriously most people find autocross pretty boring. Just hop out on a track day as a beginner and your life will be changed forever, and so will your wallet. Check out Speed Ventures. They run both a auto x and track days. I've never gone out with BMW CCA but hear good things. They are priced more then others but I hear you get a instructor and it's well organized. Most of the 2013 schedule isn't posted yet. Hope that helps
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You'll have more track time during a HPDE (beginners are always welcome, driving instructors are very good to learn from) and won't have to work the course to pick up cones at an Auto-X. I like both but ever since I got a taste of what HPDE was like, the M3's power is more usable there and a lot more fun than Auto-X.

$ to actual track driving time, HPDE is bang for your buck. 4-5 sessions which are usually 20-25 mins each vs. Auto-X 3-4 runs which are under 1-2 mins long, a lot of down time also.

I've had great experiences with NASA and NCRC. So far I like NCRC better because of pricing and very organized group of folks.

Thanks guys!

This is good stuff. I didn't really think of the bang for your buck idea. I of course would need/want an instructor for my first few outings.

I'll keep posted on 2013 track dates and hope to see some of you out there early next year!
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You may want to check out the Porsche Owners Club, specifically their Performance Driving Series (PDS). Well structured, safe, on par with the BMWCCA IMO. I'm an instructor with them as well. Non P-cars are welcomed and encouraged to attend.

They run practically every month at either Streets of Willow (SOW) or the infield at Auto Club Speedway (ACS). The 2013 schedule is posted up on the website.

There's a drivers clinic and track day coming up in the end of January.

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Skip AutoX. forget money (which is terrible in terms of bang for the buck), its the time that is the killer. you spend an entire day outside watching other people go around the parking lot because only 1 goes at a time. and after 8 hours you might have 5 minutes of driving.

Just go straight into HPDE, the lowest level is meant for people with no car experience, so you should be ok with that. If you are really really concern, I'd spend time at the go kart track instead to learn vehicle control.

AutoX car control is all in 1st/2nd gear (not relevant to track driving) and in AutoX, the course is always set up to discourage speed so you wont really learn to be smooth and try to stick to the racing line in a track situation. Personally I do HPDE with NASA and have no complains. I went with NASA because they are the only one to do weekend events in my area, so dont overlook the scheduling of events when making a decision to join a club
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Thanks for the input everyone! It looks like a good option is some sort of drivers clinic that takes place at the track. I know that ComnetCA is organizing a few in the LA area in the next few months or so.

I'll keep an eye out on those clinics, as well as good beginners track events.

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