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E46 M3 (2001-2006) Engine: S54 - Max Hp: 333 hp at 7,900 rpm / 262 lb/ft at 4,900 rpm
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Old Wed, Nov-24-2010, 11:41:17 AM   #1
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Default Vanos Filter and O-Ring change - PLEASE

Hi everyone,
I'm new here and will present myself today, but I need the community help please

I have changed my vanos filter and both O-Ring that comes with the change of vanos filter.
There are the vanos filter, one large O-Ring and one small O-Ring.
No worries with the filter and the large O-Ring.
But I have a problem with the small one.

In fact, the old O-Ring in place was different than the new one it replaces. The old one was like in plastic, square section, and larger than the new one is, more like in rubber and thiner. So I have now (not before replacement) some free space arround the new Small O-Ring and I'm very much wondering what is the reason.

Is anyone knows why the new O-Ring is different and thiner than the old one, is anyone that has changed it could inform me please, because I won't start the engine 'till I have clear explaination

Thanks for your help !

Here are the pictures with the new small O-Ring in place, showing the free space at its right and with also the old O-Ring just aside.

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It is the same O ring as the squared hard plastic one. That is just what it looks and feels like after that many miles.
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It is the same O ring as the squared hard plastic one. That is just what it looks and feels like after that many miles.
Thanks for your quick answer
So the free space created with the new O-Ring compared to the old one is normal, nothing strange in having 1 or 2mm free when I had no one with the old one ? You have had the same with your cars, because many people tell me there is an issue (in the way that they don't have any free space arround the new O-Ring ??!! how could it be different with mine) ?
I was also considering than many miles could change/alter the aspect and the shape, but is also appears to be larger and filling all the space which is not the case with the new one...

So the new O-Ring, soft rubber, round section, and thin, will become hard plastic, square section, and larger with miles ?!

Thanks for your sensible explaination, that means I can start the engine up with no worries ?
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Hes right when you tighten the vanos cartridge it would compress that o-ring into a square. Mine was the same.
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Hes right when you tighten the vanos cartridge it would compress that o-ring into a square. Mine was the same.
Hi, thanks for answering.
To be sure we're talking about the same thing: but what do you mean "when you tighten the vanos cartbridge" ? In fact, once the vanos filter in place it does not impact the O-Ring shape or so, it is not related for me and not in contact, could you please detail your thinking please ? Have you had some room arround the new round section O-Ring once in place as I have (as shown on pictures) ?

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On this following video, at 3min40s we can see the new small O-Ring filling completly the whole space, no room arround, it is not like on mine at all, what do you think ??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2UO3...ayer_embedded#!

And in this video, the O-ing looks like mine exactly before replacement, but the guy does NOT change it... I have a kind of a mix between those both videos but with different result ?!:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84eHb...layer_embedded
Look how bigger the old O-Ring looks like (like mine), so that is why I have room with the new O-Ring (but it does not appear on the first video, why in fact ??) ?

I'm lost.
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Hi, thanks for answering.
To be sure we're talking about the same thing: but what do you mean "when you tighten the vanos cartbridge" ? In fact, once the vanos filter in place it does not impact the O-Ring shape or so, it is not related for me and not in contact, could you please detail your thinking please ? Have you had some room arround the new round section O-Ring once in place as I have (as shown on pictures) ?

Thanks again

Its normal, I promise. When you slide the cartridge in before you tighten it up, you can feel the O-ring compress against the shaft. Mine had that gap to with the new O-ring, it is normal. I don't know why it is that way in the video, but this is a common question people ask, mine was that way when I changed mine and so is pretty much everyones. Search through the Vanos Filter change DIYs, this is a FAQ.

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THANKS THANKS then, no more worries !
I'll have a look again in FAQs...
Best regards
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And in this video, the O-ing looks like mine exactly before replacement, but the guy does NOT change it... I have a kind of a mix between those both videos but with different result ?!:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84eHb...layer_embedded
Look how bigger the old O-Ring looks like (like mine), so that is why I have room with the new O-Ring (but it does not appear on the first video, why in fact ??) ?

I'm lost.[/QUOTE]

This guy is an idiot!

I didn't see a need to change the o-ring. When I check this again in a few thousand miles I'll replace it.
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[QUOTE=This guy is an idiot!

I didn't see a need to change the o-ring. When I check this again in a few thousand miles I'll replace it.[/QUOTE]

Sorry, what is wrong I didn't get your point ?
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