E90 / E92 / E93 M3 Rumour Mill

SpecialK · Fri, Dec-10-2004, 10:11:36 PM

. . . and the new V8 will fit in our engine bay should you get the wild hair to make that mod. I'm sure it won't be plug and play though. "Special" tools will no doubt be required.

silver_m333 · Fri, Dec-10-2004, 11:43:40 PM

The new M3 sounds pretty sweet. Like everyone said, we will need to see what it looks like and with hold our verdict until the final product arrives. All I can say is that BMW better get their act together when it comes to reliability. I won't put up with the same crap we have now.

As for the performance bar constantly being raised, the new M3 should be very competitive in it's class. That means C55, CLK55, Audi S4, Audi RS4, and the Porsche 911 (Normal version). I'm sure the price will be higher as well with the frickin Euro as high as it is. Now they just have to keep the weight down and it will be a super car.

sssserge · Fri, Dec-10-2004, 11:47:48 PM

20in wheels standard? Can't get much racing rubber in that size. Anyone have any idea of the lightest 20in wheels?

capirest · Sat, Dec-11-2004, 05:02:24 AM

I guess I'll wait until I see pics, before I start saving for the next generation......

BMW F1 · Sun, Dec-12-2004, 09:51:42 PM

The information as stated before has come directly from a very good mag here called Motor. Saying this, there is no need for a ban or anything like that. We here in Australia might have more accessibility to this information as we have closer links to the UK car market.

This information has come DIRECTLY from the testing grounds in Europe and is as reported a E90 M3 V8, displacement yet to be confirmed. 20" Rims will be standard issue although I would say it would be more than likely to be 19" rims. Please feel free to read between the lines, you as well as anyone else does, knows that a lot of these "so called CONCRETE" stats will changed closer to the release date.

I believe it is always good to have this information up front and as soon as possible. When I find out about these things, I would like to keep this forum up to date before any of the other forums find out about it.

So please keep reading and please keep your ear to the ground to report anything that might have to do with the new M. ... All the best.

AhsanU · Sun, Dec-12-2004, 10:34:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RagingLamb

Not bad at all. Now let's hope it's not ugly.

My concerns exactly.. If the car doesn't look as hideous as the new 3 series will (spy pics) I'll definately purchase it.

I hope..

flabmaster · Sun, Dec-12-2004, 11:11:44 PM

I don't know why everyone is assuming the car will be a total pig. Sure, it will be bigger and have a larger engine, but remember, the e90 m5 isn't too much heavier than the old e39 and its engine is only marginally heavier despite the 2 extra cylendars(e90 v10 weighs 529lbs - ~2lbs heavier than the s62 v8). I have a feeling the car will probably be slightly heavier, but if the e39/90 comparison (e90 m5 4034lbs (cite: sports car magazine) e39 m5 4024lbs (cite: edmunds.com)) is anything to go by, not by much.
-Dave

BMW F1 · Mon, Dec-13-2004, 10:20:31 AM

I think with every new generation ppl do become concerned in regards to the looks. Up until now, we have only really seen pictures in mags or photochop images. I think once ppl see the new M it will really grow on them, especially the numbers that it will crunch out.

Thrill · Mon, Dec-13-2004, 01:10:32 PM

I think the weight will be kept down. I am seeing some carbon fiber in the new 330. Dash appointments, very cool and a sign of more use of light weight material. The M3 in a V8 will be an alloy sleved engine and the weight should be no more the the cast I6. I think they may actually get the weight down a little. If the HP is up and the weight is down it will be one sweet performing car. To me this is just logic. These are my thoughs only. But the M3 is BMW's performance car so it makes sense in that respect.

///meric · Mon, Dec-13-2004, 03:22:12 PM

Honestly 400 hp is not enought, bmw is going to have to have at least 450 to be ahead of the crowd, unless there going to make a CSL version with at least 460

Fri, Dec-10-2004, 10:11:36 PM	#21
SpecialK Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 1,083 Reputation: 0 Location: Chesapeake, VA	. . . and the new V8 will fit in our engine bay should you get the wild hair to make that mod. I'm sure it won't be plug and play though. "Special" tools will no doubt be required. __________________ K '04 ///M3 / 6MT / Schwartz on Schwartz / Moonroof, Cold WX & Prem Pkgs / Bi-Xenons / Falken 452 245/35/19F-275/30/19R / Pioneer AVIC N1 / Hoenmatch Fogs / AFE CAI / Keyhole Cover / Rennline Pedals / 3M Clear Bra / RE SSK / RE Tranny Mounts / CDV removed / VPD Underdrive Pullies / Dinan Stage III SW Pending Install: ? Wish list: GC Coilover kit / Cat Back w/ Einsemann Sport Exhaust 4x76 tips / BBK / Lightweight Battery /Escort Passport SRX /

Fri, Dec-10-2004, 11:43:40 PM	#22
silver_m333 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Age: 43 Posts: 951 Reputation: 0 Location: Miami, FL	The new M3 sounds pretty sweet. Like everyone said, we will need to see what it looks like and with hold our verdict until the final product arrives. All I can say is that BMW better get their act together when it comes to reliability. I won't put up with the same crap we have now. As for the performance bar constantly being raised, the new M3 should be very competitive in it's class. That means C55, CLK55, Audi S4, Audi RS4, and the Porsche 911 (Normal version). I'm sure the price will be higher as well with the frickin Euro as high as it is. Now they just have to keep the weight down and it will be a super car. __________________ 2002 E46 TiAg SMG II (Gone... ) 2009 E90 Silverstone Metallic DCT

Fri, Dec-10-2004, 11:47:48 PM	#23
sssserge Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 129 Reputation: 0	20in wheels standard? Can't get much racing rubber in that size. Anyone have any idea of the lightest 20in wheels? __________________ SSSSERGE

Sat, Dec-11-2004, 05:02:24 AM	#24
capirest Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 4,933 Reputation: 0 Location: OC, CA	I guess I'll wait until I see pics, before I start saving for the next generation...... __________________ Anthony My Little daughter (Maiya) is now 10 yrs old!!!! My Pride & Joy!!

Sun, Dec-12-2004, 09:51:42 PM	#25
BMW F1 Where to now ??? Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 10,672 Reputation: 0 Location: Melbourne, Australia	The information as stated before has come directly from a very good mag here called Motor. Saying this, there is no need for a ban or anything like that. We here in Australia might have more accessibility to this information as we have closer links to the UK car market. This information has come DIRECTLY from the testing grounds in Europe and is as reported a E90 M3 V8, displacement yet to be confirmed. 20" Rims will be standard issue although I would say it would be more than likely to be 19" rims. Please feel free to read between the lines, you as well as anyone else does, knows that a lot of these "so called CONCRETE" stats will changed closer to the release date. I believe it is always good to have this information up front and as soon as possible. When I find out about these things, I would like to keep this forum up to date before any of the other forums find out about it. So please keep reading and please keep your ear to the ground to report anything that might have to do with the new M. ... All the best. __________________ BMW///M3CSL Teh STi can nevar lose!

Sun, Dec-12-2004, 11:11:44 PM	#27
flabmaster Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 1,442 Reputation: 0 Location: Western NY	I don't know why everyone is assuming the car will be a total pig. Sure, it will be bigger and have a larger engine, but remember, the e90 m5 isn't too much heavier than the old e39 and its engine is only marginally heavier despite the 2 extra cylendars(e90 v10 weighs 529lbs - ~2lbs heavier than the s62 v8). I have a feeling the car will probably be slightly heavier, but if the e39/90 comparison (e90 m5 4034lbs (cite: sports car magazine) e39 m5 4024lbs (cite: edmunds.com)) is anything to go by, not by much. -Dave __________________ Vehicles: 2002 LSB M3 w/ SMG 2004 Suzuki GSXR 750

Mon, Dec-13-2004, 10:20:31 AM	#28
BMW F1 Where to now ??? Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 10,672 Reputation: 0 Location: Melbourne, Australia	I think with every new generation ppl do become concerned in regards to the looks. Up until now, we have only really seen pictures in mags or photochop images. I think once ppl see the new M it will really grow on them, especially the numbers that it will crunch out. __________________ BMW///M3CSL Teh STi can nevar lose!

Mon, Dec-13-2004, 01:10:32 PM	#29
Thrill Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 1,394 Reputation: 0 Location: Cincinnati	I think the weight will be kept down. I am seeing some carbon fiber in the new 330. Dash appointments, very cool and a sign of more use of light weight material. The M3 in a V8 will be an alloy sleved engine and the weight should be no more the the cast I6. I think they may actually get the weight down a little. If the HP is up and the weight is down it will be one sweet performing car. To me this is just logic. These are my thoughs only. But the M3 is BMW's performance car so it makes sense in that respect. __________________ 2004 M3 SMG LSB Black Nappa Prem. Pkg. 19s Shoot Bear When Bear In Season

Mon, Dec-13-2004, 03:22:12 PM	#30
///meric Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 3,207 Reputation: 0 Location: Long grove Il	Honestly 400 hp is not enought, bmw is going to have to have at least 450 to be ahead of the crowd, unless there going to make a CSL version with at least 460 __________________ Unlike the latter day E36 and E46 M3's, the original E30 M3’s main purpose in life was to win races on the track, not the street. It got the job done."

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