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E46 M3 (2001-2006) Engine: S54 - Max Hp: 333 hp at 7,900 rpm / 262 lb/ft at 4,900 rpm
Total Produced: 45,000+ - Years Produced: 2001 to 2006.


View Poll Results: Color choices for Custom M3 gauge faces
Black Yes and Im ready to commit to purchasing 14 14.29%
Dark Gray Yes and Im ready to commit to purchasing 8 8.16%
Alpina Blue Yes and Im ready to commit to purchasing 16 16.33%
Red Yes and Im ready to commit to purchasing 15 15.31%
Other 12 12.24%
No, not ready to purchase yet, but interested for the future 41 41.84%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 98. You may not vote on this poll

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Old Wed, Feb-24-2016, 03:17:02 AM   #1
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Hey guys,

So, in the e39 M5 realm, there are many people who prefer the early 2000 M5 instrument clusters that were black faces, rather than the later produced gray faces (similar to the e46 M3 faces). I have had some black faces made by a company that came out very nice and I was wondering if the M3 community might be interested in something similar done for them.

The reason for this thread is that since there was never a M3 cluster with black faces, I figured the reason for the lack of interest was because people weren't sure what they would look like or even if it was possible to have made in small enough batches, so I did a quick and dirty mockup of what the faces would look like in black and a few other colors. I have spoken with my supplier and they will be able to do several colors of the same design for me, so I'm putting a poll at the top to decide between a selection of 4 colors, plus a 5th Other. I'm hoping that I can make it a write-in, but if not, I'll just have you guys send me messages or post in the thread and I'll try to keep up with the suggestions. Please only select "No, not ready, but interested for the future" if you are actually interested and not simply because you don't like the color choices. I'm trying to make it so that anyone that votes is actually wanting one.

Price for gauge faces alone shipped will be ~$140. If you want to have your LEDs swapped to white or most any other colors, it will be another $50 and I'll install the faces at the same time. So the total then becomes $190 including return shipping.

I already can do mileage correction on used clusters to make them like a new cluster with VIN, coding and mileage matched to your car for $150, but if you want it done with the gauge faces and/or LED swap, it's only $120.

Unless I get a wildly different price to have the faces manufactured than I did on my M5 faces, the ballpark price will likely be the final price.

Below is what I've come up with, but the people at the company I've worked with before have some really great graphic artists that will make it look much better than my crappy photoshop skills can do

The pictures of the fully assembled clusters are done by TerraPhantm, but should look very similar to what mine would look like installed. All are photoshopped for now until I get some manufactured.

Black


Dark Gray


Alpina Blue


Red


*UPDATE FOR PRE-ORDER INFORMATION*

Ok, so since this is moving forward now and I expect to get a bill from the supplier for the first payment soon, I want to go ahead and get the pre-orders going. Once again, this is going to a 100% pre-payment for the gauge faces. If you want other work done, such as LED swaps, mileage correction, repair work, etc., you can pay for that later and the work will be done when the faces are ready. I can put that information on the invoice though and just require the partial payment of the $140 for the gauge faces up front and you can just pay the remaining when we get to that stage. I expect that once I get a final proof for the faces and I approve of it, it will be about 3-4 weeks for manufacturing, but I will confirm that when I hear from the supplier at that time.

To make your payment, send me an email to mail@fixels.repair with your PayPal email address, your full name, your contact email address (if different than your PayPal), and your M3Forum.net username. You must also let me know what color faces you want and preferably any other options you want (not required at this time though). If you want more than one, please let me know. Once I receive your email, I'll send you an invoice. Again, you can just pay a partial payment of $140 for the gauge faces if you prefer.

I will keep this thread updated with information as I receive it. Once I hear a date on manufacturing starting, I will get a more firm date on when they will be completed. Once they are completed, I will QC them and if they are good, I'll start shipping/installing them for you guys. You'll have the opportunity to let me know if you want me to install them for you or ship them to you at that time.

Any questions, please don't hesitate to email me at mail@fixels.repair.
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Old Wed, Feb-24-2016, 03:30:42 AM   #2
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Default Re: Gauging interest in Black Faces for M3 Clusters

I love the grey faces, black isn't sporty enough IMO plus all the base models from the 80's had black face gauges.
That said, perhaps a darker grey cluster would be better? Would love to see a nice implementation of this.
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I love the grey faces, black isn't sporty enough IMO plus all the base models from the 80's had black face gauges.
That said, perhaps a darker grey cluster would be better? Would love to see a nice implementation of this.
Do you mean something more like this?

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Default Re: Gauging interest in Black Faces for M3 Clusters

It's possible that without changing the text or any of the graphics that I could get multiple colors made in the same initial batch, so if some would rather other colors, please let me know.
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Default Re: Gauging interest in Black Faces for M3 Clusters

I currently have a white cluster and really like it. Would be interesting to see a black version.
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By the way, these would not be overlays, but rather replacements for the gray ones. This means that the lighting behind the text will look exactly as it does stock.

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Do you mean something more like this?

Yes exactly. If you could get a nice sheen on it too that would be perfect
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Yes exactly. If you could get a nice sheen on it too that would be perfect
It would have the same sheen as a stock cluster. The company that makes them makes clusters for several OE manufacturers. I've been really impressed with the black M5 faces I've had made.

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I don't think I would be interested regardless, but that second one you have in gray seems too close to stock to make it worth it to anyone...maybe a happy medium between the first and second one (ie an even darker grey) would make more sense?
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I don't think I would be interested regardless, but that second one you have in gray seems too close to stock to make it worth it to anyone...maybe a happy medium between the first and second one (ie an even darker grey) would make more sense?
Here's your darker gray. Any darker and it's going to look like black

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Discussing Colored Gauge Faces for M3 Clusters (Not Overlays) - Color Choices in the E46 M3 (2001-2006) Forum - Engine: S54 - Max Hp: 333 hp at 7,900 rpm / 262 lb/ft at 4,900 rpm
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