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Old Sun, Sep-25-2016, 06:13:08 PM   #1
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Default Cayman S Brakes for Track



Thoughts on this kit for an HPDE car.
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Default Re: Cayman S Brakes for Track

I ran those on my cayman for years with pagid yellows on a track only car, and they were great. I wouldnt hesitate to run them on your car, parts are easy to find, and plenty of pad options out there.

Pad changes are super easy.

ETA: Most of the GTB1 cars in PCA run the factory rears and upgrade to either the 997.2 GT3 fronts or Brembo race and RT pads up front. All that to say, great brakes. Who recoated them?
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Does that kit allow same size brake pad at all four corners?
What's the piston sizes, eg, does it change f/r bias to what you want?
Are pads from the brand you prefer available? (In both track and street compounds, if you DD also.)
Those are the questions I'd be asking.
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Default Re: Cayman S Brakes for Track

This is the mcoreinnovations kit. Here are the details.

Our big brake kits for the E46 M3 comes with (4) calipers, (4) stainless steel lines, brackets, sensors, and all necessary hardware to fit your E46 M3.
The front calipers will require ZCP/CSL sized front rotors (345x28mm) to ensure proper fitment, and the rears stay the same.

https://www.facebook.com/pg/MCORE-In...322845/photos/

$2,300
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eh...I dont know, those are 300-500 for front and 200-400 for rear calipers on rennlist or ebay. I've seen the brackets for about ~400 for both f&r so, for an additional 1000 you're getting the lines and sensors....still no pads or calipers.

Vivid recently had the ST Trophy kit for 3300, front and rear, which include the rotors....

IF you want to go this way, let me know, and I'll sell the most recent set of 987.2 calipers for $400, they are currently sitting at BGB motorsports.
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Default Re: Cayman S Brakes for Track

i have that exact same kit on my E46 M3. I purchased it for way way cheaper than their asking price off another member.

I have not tracked my car since so I can't offer feedback there.

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The rear banjo bolts appear to be too long. I got some leaking on both rear calipers even with the new supplied copper washers. I had to put one additional washer to push them out enough to properly seal.

On all 4 calipers the mounting of the caliper appears to be offset. This meant that putting in a brand new brake pad required some force to fit. If i recall the inner calipers were the ones that had issue.

The front calipers, i had to grind down the inner pad posts for it to fit, again b/c the caliper was offset and not in center of the rotor.

Pad Choices. You want the 2004 911 S or Non S base front pads. For the rear you want the 737 shape or 2008 Cayman (non S) front pads. The pads are not interchangeable front to rear.

For now I can't tell much of a difference besides pedal feel. The feel is much improved and there is more modulation. Still a hard comparison since I was running PFC06 pads and now am on a street based pad.

Shopping now for some track oriented pads for this setup.
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Default Re: Cayman S Brakes for Track

That Kit appears to be:
F/R calipers - $375
Seals - $100
Coated - $300
Lines - $150
Sensors retro - $50
F/R brackets - $375
misc s/h budget - $150
Total - $1,500
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That Kit appears to be:
F/R calipers - $375
Seals - $100
Coated - $300
Lines - $150
Sensors retro - $50
F/R brackets - $375
misc s/h budget - $150
Total - $1,500
Appreciate the breakdown.
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Appreciate the breakdown.
You can find even more detail on this kit (self sourced) in my journal... hope it helps - I love the kit and feel it would serve you well
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Appreciate the breakdown.
bump an old thread ..

so did you go with this kit or not OP?

I wouldn't mind the leg work of putting the kit together but if p0lar isn't doing the work anymore, I have no idea where to start ..
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