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Old Wed, May-01-2019, 09:04:36 PM   #1
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Angry Humans Suck: Shooting at UNCC

It used to be that something like this made huge headlines, now it's just another shooting.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/01/us/un...ell/index.html


My daughter attends this school, works in the building next to the shooting, and had just left campus when this happened.

Funny how we continue to fool ourselves into thinking gun ownership is the solution, not the problem.

I'll be there next week and proudly participate in any anti-gun rallies or vigils.


The madness must stop. Doing nothing - as in keeping and defending the status quo - only makes things worse.
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People only seem to care when it hits close to home.
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The madness must stop. Doing nothing - as in keeping and defending the status quo - only makes things worse.
You live in the wrong part of the country my friend... In 2016, #45 carried your state by 15 points. Good luck in getting Leader McConnell (R) in taking even modest action. Common sense is not so common sense when you enter the 2nd Amendment zone for some. For example, it does seem ludicrous that individuals named on the No-Fly List, if they have no felony or domestic abuse conviction, can legally procure a firearm. Anyways, onwards and upwards as they say.
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Violent crime and gun violence is an absolute tragedy. The steady 20-year decline in murder and violent crime in this country is no comfort the victims and their families of the crime that still occurs. Here’s to hoping that the decreases in violent crime that this country is experiencing, continues to decline.
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Absolutely terrible, and glad your daughter is safe, chef.

Obviously a lot of attention here, but I agree - the coverage on a national stage seems fleeting at best. Very helpless feeling.


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You live in the wrong part of the country my friend... In 2016, #45 carried your state by 15 points. Good luck in getting Leader McConnell (R) in taking even modest action. Common sense is not so common sense when you enter the 2nd Amendment zone for some. For example, it does seem ludicrous that individuals named on the No-Fly List, if they have no felony or domestic abuse conviction, can legally procure a firearm. Anyways, onwards and upwards as they say.

Yes, lets do away with due process.


It is amazing how well branding works on some. Call something "common sense" long enough and some will lap it up without actually analyzing the situation.
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It is amazing how well branding works on some. Call something "common sense" long enough and some will lap it up without actually analyzing the situation.
Maybe our nation's leaders could come up with some Sympathetic Human Criminal Correction or perhaps some Humane and Sympathetic Free College. Either way, we need to do away with Evil Elitist-Protecting Tax Brackets.
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It is amazing how well branding works on some. Call something "common sense" long enough and some will lap it up without actually analyzing the situation.
first step would be dropping the Dickey Amendment so we could actually do some meaningful research into it. Until then, both sides can claim any statistics they want.
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first step would be dropping the Dickey Amendment so we could actually do some meaningful research into it. Until then, both sides can claim any statistics they want.

We could also stop ignoring the past. We already did the bans some people are calling for in '94-'04, and the conclusion of the Justice Department is that it did little to nothing.
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We could also stop ignoring the past. We already did the bans some people are calling for in '94-'04, and the conclusion of the Justice Department is that it did little to nothing.
Not quite true. It depends on which study you read and the conclusions you want. Arguments have been made by both sides using the same data.

Besides, banning these guns targets a very specific type of shooting. What's needed is a much wider approach including ALL weapons, especially easily concealable hand guns.

The 2nd Amendment doesn't say ANYWHERE that you can own any type of device that produces deadly projectiles at 300 rounds per minute.

Guns should be AT LEAST like owning a car in Singapore: very expensive and difficult to do. There is no Constitutional right to a cheap, non-traceable gun.
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