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Old Thu, Jan-31-2019, 08:14:50 PM   #221
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Also, do you even look at the sources you quote? (Just for shits and giggles)

Investor's Business daily

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Founded in 1984 by entrepreneur and stockbroker William O’Neil, Investors Business Daily (IBD) is a conservative American newspaper and website covering the stock market, international business, finance and economics. In March, 2016, IBD became a weekly publication that focuses more on digital operations. The publication continues to use the Investor’s Business Daily name as it continues to publish daily on its website. Although IBD mostly reports on economics and finance they also allow lobbyists and PR reps for right wing think tanks like the Heartland Institute and the Competitive Enterprise Institute to write pseudo-scientific propaganda.

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IBD is owned by Investors Business Daily Inc and is funded through advertising, subscriptions and investment product sales.

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In review, Investors Business Daily primarily reports on economics, markets and investing. They also report on politics, especially through their editorial section with a very strong right wing bias. There is moderate use of loaded language in their articles that significantly favors the right, such as this: Democratic Socialism: Who Knew That ‘Free’ Could Cost So Much? For the most part IBD sources their market information to credible mainstream and government websites, however they occasionally utilize factually mixed sources such as the Daily Signal.

Investors Business Daily strays from the consensus of science in regards to climate change and they have made outrageous and false claims, such as Stephen Hawking would be dead if he lived under England’s Government health care system. This is a false propaganda statement as Stephen Hawking is a citizen of the UK and lives there. Hawking claims the British Healthcare system saved his life and kept him alive to old age.

A factual search reveals numerous failed fact checks by IFCN fact checkers. Here are a few of the many we found:

IBD editorial board claims that cap-and-trade is unpopular in America – FALSE
Private health insurance not banned on page 16 of the House bill – PANTS ON FIRE
Investor’s Business Daily editorial misrepresents study to claim plants will prevent dangerous climate change – FALSE
Was it recently revealed that the U.S. found uranium in Iraq after the invasion in 2003 – FALSE

Overall, we would rate Investors Business Daily Right Biased based on right leaning economic and market positions. We would also give them a High factual rating on strictly investing and market news. However, editorially IBT is clearly a Questionable source with promotion of right wing conspiracy theories and numerous failed fact checks.

In sum, we rate them far right biased and Mixed for factual reporting. (6/14/2016) Updated (D. Van Zandt 8/14/2018)
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/inves...usiness-daily/
P.s. William O'Neill is personally worth >100million. I wonder if he has any personal incentive to push the narrative that the tax cuts which personally helped him are good for all of us.

And looking at the specific editorial you linked:

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But entirely overlooked is what the CBO report shows about the tax cuts. That they succeeded in boosting economic growth. And that extra growth is, in turn, partially paying for the cuts. Despite what Schumer says, this is precisely what Republicans claimed would happen.

The CBO doesn't spell this out, but the message is clear to any who look at the data.
Translation: It doesn't actually say this, but for us clever ones who know how to read between the lines and look at the true numbers, it's stark as day. (Cue - Lies, Damned Lies and Statistics).

But hey, whatever makes you feel better about yourself. You got yours right?
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Translation: It doesn't actually say this, but for us clever ones who know how to read between the lines and look at the true numbers, it's stark as day. (Cue - Lies, Damned Lies and Statistics).

But hey, whatever makes you feel better about yourself. You got yours right?
They prefer you call it "common sense"
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Oh, the 97% canard! Why didn't you just say "I completely unwilling to have an honest conversation" and save me the trouble? Carry on.

.oO(I always know better than to click on moronic OT threads and then regret it when I do)
Or why don't you just play the game like a good sport and prove it wrong? Is participating in a discussion with good faith really that hard for you? Let's see your sources. Hopefully they are better than the counterclaim article that was linked earlier and written by an economist. Again:

The consensus that humans are causing recent global warming is shared by 90%–100% of publishing climate scientists according to six independent studies by co-authors of this paper. Those results are consistent with the 97% consensus reported by Cook et al (Environ. Res. Lett. 8 024024) based on 11 944 abstracts of research papers, of which 4014 took a position on the cause of recent global warming. A survey of authors of those papers (N = 2412 papers) also supported a 97% consensus. Tol (2016 Environ. Res. Lett. 11 048001) comes to a different conclusion using results from surveys of non-experts such as economic geologists and a self-selected group of those who reject the consensus. We demonstrate that this outcome is not unexpected because the level of consensus correlates with expertise in climate science. At one point, Tol also reduces the apparent consensus by assuming that abstracts that do not explicitly state the cause of global warming ('no position') represent non-endorsement, an approach that if applied elsewhere would reject consensus on well-established theories such as plate tectonics. We examine the available studies and conclude that the finding of 97% consensus in published climate research is robust and consistent with other surveys of climate scientists and peer-reviewed studies.

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Unrelated - did you know Breitbart is a cofounder/co-owner of Huff Po? Homeboy is cashing in on both sides
He's dead.

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Old Fri, Feb-01-2019, 12:45:04 AM   #225
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I just mentioned Cortez because she is the latest in a long line of socialist agenda pushing liberals, and the climate change agenda boils down to redistribution of wealth (aka socialism).
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In a nutshell. Trump's tax are already paying for themselves. Not that you guys would believe it, or hear it on the MSM. Whatever, It works for the rest of us.
Noise in the system.

You have no idea what youre talking about and that article lacks any shred of actual analysis or insight.

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/A191RO1Q156NBEA

Trump inherited an economy trucking along, and he hasnt eclipsed Obama GDP highs as of yet.... since you feel the need to be partisan about EVERYTHING.
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/weather/to...zxW?li=BBnb7Kz
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Noise in the system.

You have no idea what youre talking about and that article lacks any shred of actual analysis or insight.

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/A191RO1Q156NBEA

Trump inherited an economy trucking along, and he hasnt eclipsed Obama GDP highs as of yet.... since you feel the need to be partisan about EVERYTHING.
we already have a trump thread, don't encourage it here

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It might take losing a few million waterfront homes to flooding to make some changes and apparently that may actually happen sooner than later
But hey, humans have nothing to do with it, so we should just keep on keeping on.
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I just mentioned Cortez because she is the latest in a long line of socialist agenda pushing liberals, and the climate change agenda boils down to redistribution of wealth (aka socialism).



:lau ghhard::laug hhard::rofl3 : :laughhard :
I was going to let this go, but AOC just threw me a soft ball yesterday with her Green New Deal, and it was too good to pass up. ROFLMAO. In a nutshell, the US should be 100% net zero CO2 output in 10 years.

I guess I get the last laugh on this one. What a fool. And if there was any doubt that it is in fact about socialism, then note that the deal includes wages for people unable and unwilling to work. Oh man this is gold.

And since I am at it, here is what the former UN climate officer Ottmar Edenhofer said:

"One has to free oneself from the illusion that international climate policy is environmental policy. This has almost nothing to do with the environmental policy anymore, with problems such as deforestation or the ozone hole," said Edenhofer, who co-chaired the U.N.'s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change working group on Mitigation of Climate Change from 2008 to 2015.
So what is the goal of environmental policy?
"We redistribute de facto the world's wealth by climate policy," said Edenhofer.
For those who want to believe that maybe Edenhofer just misspoke and doesn't really mean that, consider that a little more than five years ago he also said that "the next world climate summit in Cancun is actually an economy summit during which the distribution of the world's resources will be negotiated."

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