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Old Fri, Aug-24-2018, 08:23:21 PM   #151
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The first container ship to tackle an Arctic route along Russia's north coast has left the Russian port of Vladivostok as it trials a journey made easier by global warming.

The Venta Maersk, which is carrying 3,600 containers, is making a trial passage through the Northern Sea route, departing from Eastern Russia and making port in St Petersburg by late September, the BBC and The Independent reported.

It will collect data as part of an effort to test the economic viability of the route. The journey could be up to 14 days faster than the more established southern route through the Indian Ocean and the Suez canal.

The 42,000-tonne Venta Maersk, carrying a shipment of frozen fish and other goods, is a new "ice class" vessel. It is designed to sail in colder seas and has a stronger hull and protected rudders.

"The trial passage will enable us to explore the operational feasibility of container shipping through the Northern Sea Route and to collect data," Maersk said, underlining that "this is a one-off trial designed to explore an unknown route for container shipping and to collect scientific data."

The route was once impossible due to ice but higher Arctic temparatures, combined with advances in shipping, have made it more viable.

In January this year, Arctic sea ice hit a record low and in March an "extreme event" was declared. The sea ice in the Bering strait reached its lowest levels in recorded history as temperatures 30C above average were recorded.

According to figures from the National Snow and Ice Data Centre in Colorado, sea ice cover this winter was less than a third of what it was five years ago.

The route has seen growing marine traffic this summer, with smaller ships carrying cargos of gas and oil already making the journey regularly.

Sune Scheller of Greenpeace Nordic told the Independent he was aware of companies looking at the viability of Arctic shipping and said the change would be "environmentally damaging in a number of ways."

"If these ships were to have an accident then heavy fuel oil in the marine environment is bad. It's even worse in an Arctic environment. The cold water temperatures slow or halt the natural breakdown of the oil. So it remains in marine environments for a much longer period of time," Scheller said.

But Maersk stressed that the route was just a test.

"Currently, we do not see the Northern Sea Route as a commercial alternative to our existing network, which is defined by our customers' demand, trading patterns and population centres," Maersk said in a statement.
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No wonder we want to keep rolling back climate and efficiency initiatives! Canít piss off daddy Vladimir.
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Yay! Finally! A guy from band of horses tells me climate change isn't happening, and it's just liberals trying to cash grab. I knew 97% of actively publishing scientists were wrong.
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hmm. so if melting ice is not what is contributing to rising sea levels, what is? we have an even bigger problem if we dont know but the result is the same: more money is needed to figure it out. I do agree with that guy that technology can overcome some of the effects of what we are experiencing in either case. In either case, what that guy doesnt say is that some of that increased ice is from increased snowfall which freezes easier than ocean water. The earth is still getting warmer at an increasing rate and the ocean is still rising.
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hmm. so if melting ice is not what is contributing to rising sea levels, what is? we have an even bigger problem if we dont know but the result is the same: more money is needed to figure it out. I do agree with that guy that technology can overcome some of the effects of what we are experiencing in either case. In either case, what that guy doesnt say is that some of that increased ice is from increased snowfall which freezes easier than ocean water. The earth is still getting warmer at an increasing rate and the ocean is still rising.
Nothing is constant. The very definition of climate is that it is the weather condition in areas over a long time. Meaning it takes time to average out. I think the sticking point is that the alarmist take a very short (relatively speaking) time period, and then use it as "evidence". We should never forget that climate has always changed and always will.

Back to the sea levels. Remember what Al Gore predicted in his movie? Florida was supposed to be under water a long time ago. It could very well be that we just went through 2-3 warm decades, because of high solar activity and now we'll go back to normal, meaning sea levels will recede again.

Maybe some of you aren't old enough to remember, but in the 70's they thought the next ice age was just around the corner. Turns out they were completely wrong.

BTW, there are many scientist that think we are on the brink of another ice age now. Solar activity has been very low and if it stays that way, we could be in trouble, or we can blame it on climate change
https://www.almanac.com/blog/astrono...g-mini-ice-age
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Nothing is constant. The very definition of climate is that it is the weather condition in areas over a long time. Meaning it takes time to average out. I think the sticking point is that the alarmist take a very short (relatively speaking) time period, and then use it as "evidence". We should never forget that climate has always changed and always will.
And you think this concept is beyond the grasp of a climate researcher because? Also, it's not the change that is alarming, it's the rate of change.

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Back to the sea levels. Remember what Al Gore predicted in his movie? Florida was supposed to be under water a long time ago. It could very well be that we just went through 2-3 warm decades, because of high solar activity and now we'll go back to normal, meaning sea levels will recede again.
Al Gore was wrong about something so the whole thing is a hoax?

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Maybe some of you aren't old enough to remember, but in the 70's they thought the next ice age was just around the corner. Turns out they were completely wrong.
That's three fallacies in a row!

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BTW, there are many scientist that think we are on the brink of another ice age now. Solar activity has been very low and if it stays that way, we could be in trouble, or we can blame it on climate change
https://www.almanac.com/blog/astrono...g-mini-ice-age
Lol, I admire the optimism but's that's not a convincing article:

However, if we do have a “Maunder Minimum,” it would not be a return to the “Little Ice Age.” Solar radiation expert Judith Lean, PhD, of the Naval Research Laboratory points to global surface temperature about 1.8 degrees Fahrenheit, warmer now than at the time of the Maunder Minimum and says a return to a Maunder Minimum phenomenon would lead to a cooling by only one-tenth of a degree C or .18 degree F.
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