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E36 M3 (1992-1999) {Euro - S50 B32 321hp @ 7400 rpm} {U.S. - S52 B32 240 hp @ 6000 rpm}
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Old Mon, Aug-31-2009, 01:56:03 AM   #21
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haha... that late pass into T8 was awesome.. in retrospect it was probably best though. You had tucked in front of the mini, and the mini was right next to me, if you went first and I had to "tuck in line" there was no where to go. It turned out best I think by giving the late point
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haha... that late pass into T8 was awesome.. in retrospect it was probably best though. You had tucked in front of the mini, and the mini was right next to me, if you went first and I had to "tuck in line" there was no where to go. It turned out best I think by giving the late point
I didn't have any issue with the pass, in fact I thought it was cleanly done by all....and it's one of my fave tactics RACING at Putnam but, it was NOT the opinion of the powers that be ... I was trying to get my guy to grow a set of stones and make the faster cars work a bit harder for a pass, so I was a bit pissy with him later... I would have blocked your ass.... he he...

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But now that I think about the situation, with all kidding aside, while it was a bit of a cluster f..k, it was an instance in which two wrongs don't make a right. We are operating under DE rules, that means no passing in the corners, period. Just because my guy gave you a late point by (BAD move on his part) does not mean you can take the pass ( BAD move on your part). You got the black flag, hey, we should have been flagged too, but that didn't happen. I made it clear to my guy that that move didn't work, but I do think he should have had a trip to the marshall too, to make it clear.

In the end it all worked out without any drama, it was a good clean pass, but the rules of the game were indeed violated.. So much of one's craft as a driver is to know the rules of the game so as to exploit them to the max, and yet, not to overstep them,, all at the same time.

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Fun pics by the way, get yer vids up!

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I was kinda nearby... at indy for MotoGP! Nice pictures!
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But now that I think about the situation, with all kidding aside, while it was a bit of a cluster f..k, it was an instance in which two wrongs don't make a right. We are operating under DE rules, that means no passing in the corners, period. Just because my guy gave you a late point by (BAD move on his part) does not mean you can take the pass ( BAD move on your part). You got the black flag, hey, we should have been flagged too, but that didn't happen. I made it clear to my guy that that move didn't work, but I do think he should have had a trip to the marshall too, to make it clear.

In the end it all worked out without any drama, it was a good clean pass, but the rules of the game were indeed violated.. So much of one's craft as a driver is to know the rules of the game so as to exploit them to the max, and yet, not to overstep them,, all at the same time.

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very true... when your student gave me the pass, I questioned it as it was very late, and Ken said to take it inside and stay tight.. with your students E30, and the mini "training it" on the right hand side of the track, it would of been MORE dangerous to fall behind you, in front of the mini....

you knew what was going on, I knew what was going on, we all stayed safe, and in that instance, in retrospective, probably was the best option due to the double pass in that short straight...

to keep it truly safe, I should of stayed behind the mini, and waited until the main straight, and not taken the double pass between 7 and 8
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I don't think that there was a safety issue at all, as I said, it was clean. There was a rules issue and while strict adherance to a set of rules may or may not be the best for a given situation, rules is rules... Your last comment was the correct one in this case. I was just giving you a bit of the bussiness, and in doing so hoped that it might make you think.. (I woulda gone for the double too... and taken the flag... but that's another story)

I do think that you should try and do a Club Race school, even if you don't plan on racing in the near future... hint Autobahn... spring... 2010...

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I do think that you should try and do a Club Race school, even if you don't plan on racing in the near future... hint Autobahn... spring... 2010...

Steve E.
very interesting thought
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Cool pics man. I have yet to make it out to Putnam Park. I hope it's in my future.
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Cool pics man. I have yet to make it out to Putnam Park. I hope it's in my future.
amazing track, great place to "push it"... tons of run-off in most of the corners, and can be VERY rewarding when you get it "right"
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