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Old Thu, Sep-13-2018, 07:25:30 PM   #1021
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Costco sources some very good wines for their private label. They get their wines from WXBrands, who, along with Truett-Hurst, supply a large number of private labels for national retail chains. https://www.wxbrands.com/ https://www.truetthurstinc.com/what-we-do/

Both have large facilities in Sonoma. Truett-Hurst is in Dry Creek and the tasting room is open to the public. Dry Creek is known for Zins and Italian varietals, but the vast majority of acres planted are cabernet that is sold on the open market or under contract.
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Only certain varietals made at a very high level benefit from proper aging. Mostly you need to avoid exposing the wine to high temperatures for any amount of time.
with this too. Would add that this shorter life span is a function of modern winemaking because the masses don't understand the concept of saving something/storing wine until it's aged properly.

I would also say depth and complexity are locked in the bottle with the cork. They are what they always will be because the ingredients and "art" from the winemaking process have already been put in there. How the wine is aged - environment and time - will play a vital role in how boldly and when along the timeline those characteristics show up.
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This. Great wines are made in the vineyard. Even with all the techno-voodoo available today, if you have a poor quality harvest you'll only get an average wine at best. Age these wines and they'll get worse. When we're talking about small(ish) wineries (sometimes called "cult" wines) that strive for the best result possible, things like weather, terroir, sun exposure, soil type, cover crop, and harvesting techniques are all critical to the outcome.
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Costco sources some very good wines for their private label. They get their wines from WXBrands, who, along with Truett-Hurst, supply a large number of private labels for national retail chains. https://www.wxbrands.com/ https://www.truetthurstinc.com/what-we-do/

Both have large facilities in Sonoma. Truett-Hurst is in Dry Creek and the tasting room is open to the public. Dry Creek is known for Zins and Italian varietals, but the vast majority of acres planted are cabernet that is sold on the open market or under contract.



Most wines peak at 3-5 years and you don't want to keep them longer. Many wines are ready to drink at release.

Only certain varietals made at a very high level benefit from proper aging. Mostly you need to avoid exposing the wine to high temperatures for any amount of time.
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with this too. Would add that this shorter life span is a function of modern winemaking because the masses don't understand the concept of saving something/storing wine until it's aged properly.

I would also say depth and complexity are locked in the bottle with the cork. They are what they always will be because the ingredients and "art" from the winemaking process have already been put in there. How the wine is aged - environment and time - will play a vital role in how boldly and when along the timeline those characteristics show up.
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Btw, seems we're about 2 weeks from harvest if the weather holds.



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This. Great wines are made in the vineyard. Even with all the techno-voodoo available today, if you have a poor quality harvest you'll only get an average wine at best. Age these wines and they'll get worse. When we're talking about small(ish) wineries (sometimes called "cult" wines) that strive for the best result possible, things like weather, terroir, sun exposure, soil type, cover crop, and harvesting techniques are all critical to the outcome.


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That sounds right though. I sip my vodka martinis. How do you drink them?

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I think so? I may have smoked too many heirloom tomatoes tho. It's all kinda fuzzy.
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Doing NY strips and we wanna try out a nice bottle around $50, recommendations?
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Malbec, Cabernet, Zinfandel, Bordeaux blends, Merlot, Syrah all fit the bill. Take a chance and pick one and see how you like it. Report back.

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