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E46 M3 (2001-2006) Engine: S54 - Max Hp: 333 hp at 7,900 rpm / 262 lb/ft at 4,900 rpm
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Old Thu, Nov-15-2018, 11:28:04 PM   #301
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Kaiv uses one of these but they're NLA.

Best BMW E36 E46 RTAB tool - Rear Trailing Arm Bushing Tool - YouTube


Other option is to build one of these diy tools for the ball joints but it's unclear what brand sockets he used as I know different brands can have different tolerances so would make this kinda annoying if I have to grind down sockets and whatnot.

https://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthread.php?t=1104247
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Old Fri, Nov-16-2018, 12:07:54 AM   #302
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Kaiv uses one of these but they're NLA.

Best BMW E36 E46 RTAB tool - Rear Trailing Arm Bushing Tool - YouTube


Other option is to build one of these diy tools for the ball joints but it's unclear what brand sockets he used as I know different brands can have different tolerances so would make this kinda annoying if I have to grind down sockets and whatnot.

https://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthread.php?t=1104247
3 years ago I shipped ECS tuning my RTAB tool (same thing Kaiv uses) in hopes that they were going to reproduce it. Probably should check back in with them...
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Old Fri, Nov-16-2018, 01:25:03 AM   #303
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Yeah stock sucked royally. Luckily I have poly currently so those should just pop out. Only will really need the rtab tool for pressing in the monoballs. Would be nice to find something like the bav auto tool for the rest of the job that's not $700 and doesn't require removal of the ebrake. Lol.

The bav auto tool seems slightly different than the Koch tool but I'm guessing it's good enough?


I must of bought the last BavAuto set, I got it a couple months ago. It work great but the rod broke at the very end when installing the bimmerworld set. I need to source a new rod as Iím thinking of switching them out. It works great for the upper ball joint and ok for the lower bushing.


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Old Sat, Nov-24-2018, 03:42:14 PM   #304
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Started my turner rtab monoball install last night and I'm surprised no one here has really mentioned how much of a royal pia these are! The bigger problem I found last night is that the rtab carrier bracket does not clear the monoball at all and has to be wacked lightly with a dead blow to clear. The turner monoball sticks out slightly further by design compared to stock or poly.

Now the bigger issue I'm concerned about is the fact that the bracket does not sit flush at all in the rtab pocket when torqued down which clearly isn't safe. Going to order a new bracket from the dealer today in hopes mine is just warped, but I may also try grinding down the old to see if that helps. None of you guys have run into this issue?

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Old Wed, Nov-28-2018, 06:28:13 PM   #306
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Started my turner rtab monoball install last night and I'm surprised no one here has really mentioned how much of a royal pia these are! The bigger problem I found last night is that the rtab carrier bracket does not clear the monoball at all and has to be wacked lightly with a dead blow to clear. The turner monoball sticks out slightly further by design compared to stock or poly.

Now the bigger issue I'm concerned about is the fact that the bracket does not sit flush at all in the rtab pocket when torqued down which clearly isn't safe. Going to order a new bracket from the dealer today in hopes mine is just warped, but I may also try grinding down the old to see if that helps. None of you guys have run into this issue?

If you didn't mark the arm position, you either really need an alignment now, or you flipped something

It's a bit of a pain, but that's any RTAB bushing. My personal preference is to hold the arm down with a wood block as you work
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If you didn't mark the arm position, you either really need an alignment now, or you flipped something

It's a bit of a pain, but that's any RTAB bushing. My personal preference is to hold the arm down with a wood block as you work
I marked it, but not too concerned about alignment as I'm refreshing all the ball joints and changing camber arms this week anyways. Alignment will come after. I initially had the carrier bracket upside down late last night and realized it, but this pic was taken after. Unfortunately there's not much to install incorrectly given that the balljoint is pre-pressed in and blue casing is flush. I'm going to call Turner today and see what they have to say. This sucks honestly.
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Started my turner rtab monoball install last night and I'm surprised no one here has really mentioned how much of a royal pia these are! The bigger problem I found last night is that the rtab carrier bracket does not clear the monoball at all and has to be wacked lightly with a dead blow to clear. The turner monoball sticks out slightly further by design compared to stock or poly.

Now the bigger issue I'm concerned about is the fact that the bracket does not sit flush at all in the rtab pocket when torqued down which clearly isn't safe. Going to order a new bracket from the dealer today in hopes mine is just warped, but I may also try grinding down the old to see if that helps. None of you guys have run into this issue?

Looks like you didn't get the pin set right. The bearing/bushing wouldn't keep you from aligning the panel.
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That's my question - how does the RTAB make the bracket not fit flush to the body of the car? Did it fit flush when you started the install?
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Looks like you didn't get the pin set right. The bearing/bushing wouldn't keep you from aligning the panel.


What pin are you referring to in particular? The mounting bolt goes all the way through with no play, but the ball joint is literally the width of the Rtab carrier bracket. Turner provides a custom sleeve insert that inserts into the Rtab to adjust the tolerance of the balljoint since itís not a bmw specific one, but the problem with this is that literally the thickness of the insert (weíre talking 1/1000ths of an inch), requires the bracket to be forced on, which I donít doubt is binding up something.






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