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E36 M3 (1992-1999) {Euro - S50 B32 321hp @ 7400 rpm} {U.S. - S52 B32 240 hp @ 6000 rpm}
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Old Wed, Aug-17-2016, 03:24:02 PM   #41
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Default Re: M3 S50B30 in Japan

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I'm just curious, what kind of longevity do you see out of the Euro version of these motors? The few that we see here in the states seem more finicky, but perhaps we don't know how to work on them properly.

Seems like an unintended consequence of the US getting the detuned version is that these motors run for a very long time here. My dyno guy calls them "tractor engines" because they run forever. The US transmission and diff are simpler and lighter which is helpful for a track car.
There are plenty of people over here in Euroland that have taken their S50's to a couple 100k km's / miles.

They are not any more (un)reliable than M50/M52's.
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Default Re: M3 S50B30 in Japan

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Floating rotors on aluminum center hub on the 3.2L.
Obviously you can fit those on the 3.0L but as a OEM car, 3.2L had better brakes
that doesnt magically make the braking better. the design and spec of the system are identical ...maybe later cars had an improved abs computer/system? that I dont know.

the silly things some of you folks focus on as being game changers on these cars is ridiculous. The 3.2 is also running heavier drivetrain bits. They had to look for savings somewhere.


my us spec dynoed 240 at the WHEELS. with very basic mods.
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They are not any more (un)reliable than M50/M52's.
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that doesnt magically make the braking better. the design and spec of the system are identical ...maybe later cars had an improved abs computer/system? that I dont know.

the silly things some of you folks focus on as being game changers on these cars is ridiculous. The 3.2 is also running heavier drivetrain bits. They had to look for savings somewhere.


my us spec dynoed 240 at the WHEELS. with very basic mods.
Well, floating rotors improve heat dissipation and therefore the endurance of the whole braking system, this is a fact.
I am not sure what point you are trying to make here, we were just discussing on differences between (euro) 3.0L and 3.2L

If given the choice, everything else being equal, it is better to go for a 3.2L, that does not mean the 3.0L is not good, I even bought one!

Btw, I have no doubt a US spec M3 can be fast or powerful given some appropriate tuning and some driving skills...
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I thought a few more hp will be nice.

I don't like Simota. Will look into Dave F.

Thanks


Even the arguably best intake only nets 20hp gain in midrange, same up top; need cams to utilise it. Maint and chassis are the things to concentrate on, proper running engine has plenty of poke.

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that doesnt magically make the braking better. the design and spec of the system are identical ...maybe later cars had an improved abs computer/system? that I dont know.

the silly things some of you folks focus on as being game changers on these cars is ridiculous. The 3.2 is also running heavier drivetrain bits. They had to look for savings somewhere.


my us spec dynoed 240 at the WHEELS. with very basic mods.
I'll be running dyno on my car soon, I'll post the result.
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Even the arguably best intake only nets 20hp gain in midrange, same up top; need cams to utilise it. Maint and chassis are the things to concentrate on, proper running engine has plenty of poke.

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lol
Yeah hard to believe uh. You wish.
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.... this is a fact.
I am not sure what point you are trying to make here, we were just discussing on differences between (euro) 3.0L and 3.2L ...
You need to take everything he says with a big grain of salt. He's constantly debating things that are facts.

Just skip his replies.

Just look at the other reply about the S50B32 being very reliable. Another fact, he tries to debate.

He's the most bitter person on this board while having the most powerfull S52 that kicks all our S50's.
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I just found this in the spare tire well of my M3.





I wonder what happens if I set off a 23 year old Japanese road flare.


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