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E36 M3 (1992-1999) {Euro - S50 B32 321hp @ 7400 rpm} {U.S. - S52 B32 240 hp @ 6000 rpm}
Total Produced: 71,212 - Years Produced: 1992 to 1999


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Old Mon, Aug-15-2016, 03:37:56 PM   #1
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Hello there!

I am a French guy, living in Japan, and happy owner of a 1994 M3 Coupé.

I am a BMW enthusiast since I am a kid, my family is owning various BMW since 30 years and I also owned a E32 before I came to Japan. Actually I used my time in Japan to try some JDM too, which I did definitely enjoy: Skyline R33 GTS-T and 2 Mazda RX-8. However I wanted to come back to BMW and the E36 M3 prices are just skyrocketing recently so it was now or never...

I found this one 15 km from my home, and 2 days after the publication of the ads, we were already 7 people interested, including some guy from Kyushu, 2000km from here... I tried it, everything was functional, engine was pushing hard, so I just bought it...

She has 148K km and the "real" M engine aka the S50 in its 3.0L version.
Those are some pictures from the seller, the car definitely needs some cleaning :p






Here she his the day I took her, the red RX8 is my previous car... I will miss her but the M3 is A LOT faster, and I love her



I registered on this forum as one never has enough knowledge and there is a lot of interesting stuff here. I also expect to be able to bring some help too as I have some good knowledge on old BMW's

I am bringing the car to professional cleaning soon, for interior refresh, I hope I can take some pictures later.
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Looks clean.

Be careful with the word "real" M engine on [this] US based board. From experience, this is a touchy subject.

Since BMW M GmbH built the US engine and put it in the US cars, it's a much an M3 engine as the Euro (ROW) one.
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Congrats on the car, just curious - how much did you purchase this car for price wise??
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Looks clean.

Be careful with the word "real" M engine on [this] US based board. From experience, this is a touchy subject.

Since BMW M GmbH built the US engine and put it in the US cars, it's a much an M3 engine as the Euro (ROW) one.
Hello! Sorry for that! Being French, I only know the S50 Euro spec as being the ///M3 engine, and US models have a very bad reputation on the Old Continent, because they miss almost 50Hp (and much more for the 3.2L). I will not go further in this direction, this is definitely not my point here

For the price, it was actually cheap, around 13K USD... There is nothing left on Japanese market at this price now (or not in this condition at least).
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Hello! Sorry for that! Being French, I only know the S50 Euro spec as being the ///M3 engine, and US models have a very bad reputation on the Old Continent, because they miss almost 50Hp (and much more for the 3.2L). I will not go further in this direction, this is definitely not my point here

For the price, it was actually cheap, around 13K USD... There is nothing left on Japanese market at this price now (or not in this condition at least).
No need to excuse yourself. They are not bad engines, just not the exotic one the ROW got.

But according to the owners here, their engine suites their driving style better. So strictly taken, for their perspective, they are the ones that got the better engine. Most would even pick it over the ROW version. I gid you not.

Although my gut feeling says that any argument regarding this is applied retroactivally, to not feel as bad.

But you will see for yourself once replies to my post are made.

I'm not one of the 'forum legends' on here. If they tell the ROW engine is better, most agree, but when I say the same thing, without that legend status, it becomes a touchy subject.
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Hmm, why didn't you get the 3.2L? If I may ask.
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Hmm, why didn't you get the 3.2L? If I may ask.
Could not find one in my budget
3.2L are becoming freakingly expensive recently, I could not find one below 2M JPY.

I did hesitate a lot before buying this 3.0L but actually the test drive convinced me: this car is really mean and, having only one Vanos, the engine wakes up above 4,000 rpm and really kicks you in the butt.
The 3.2 is faster but more linear so actually the 3.0 is more fun to me.
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Great car. I also have a Japanese 94 M3. I was looking for months to import one and can attest to the jump in prices of these in Japan over the last 2 years.


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Nice buy. Quite a few jap imports running around canada.

none can hang with my us spec on the local tracks...so us spec aint so bad despite undeserved hate


back to your car. seems 3.2s are really starting to creep up.
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Congrats on your new car!
I dream of owning a 3.2 Evo, but I'd gladly take a 3.0 if I could get my hands on one; in particular, a '95 GT with alum doors & 295 horse would get the job done nicely!
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