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E36 M3 (1992-1999) {Euro - S50 B32 321hp @ 7400 rpm} {U.S. - S52 B32 240 hp @ 6000 rpm}
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Old Fri, Aug-31-2018, 08:46:58 PM   #41
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Default Re: Possible to drive a 95 M3 in Pennsylvania during winter?

Done it for years on summer tires. You just need to finesse the gas peddle.
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Drove every winter in central PA, with some quite significant weather and with a job that absolutely required me to get to work, between 2006 and about 2014. Winter tires and a working limited slip are key, but it's really an art to driving these cars in the snow. Ripped out traction control about two months after I bought it and never needed it because given some experience, it's quite easy to drive in the winter.

That said, I absolutely wouldn't do it again. I would have bought an old beater 4wd vehicle, or just owned something besides the M3. I had the advantage of much less traffic and back farm roads to learn how to drive the car in the snow. Except for rural areas, that's no longer an options -- and today, these cars aren't worth enough that insurance companies won't just total it if you filed a claim.
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I’m looking at buying a 95 M3 5 speed. I just moved to Pennsylvania and I heard the streets are hard to drive on here in the winter.

I lived in Utah and I know that with good snow tires on a front wheel drive car it drives good.

I’m wondering if I can buy some good snow tires and get away with driving in Pennsylvania winters.
Where in PA? It's a big state...some areas can have a mild to medium winter and some can be brutal. It also depends on how flat it is where you live and what your commute home is like.

For instance, where I live I could do it. Where my brother lives (a couple miles away) it wouldn't be possible because of the rural roads and his steep driveway.
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Where in PA? It's a big state...some areas can have a mild to medium winter and some can be brutal. It also depends on how flat it is where you live and what your commute home is like.

For instance, where I live I could do it. Where my brother lives (a couple miles away) it wouldn't be possible because of the rural roads and his steep driveway.
He doesn't have to worry about driving an M3 in the winter any more...I bought the car from him last week.

I hope he gets another one though, this one is actually an automatic. He ended up putting some Bridgestone Blizzak WS80 snow tires on the car, IIRC they're 225/45 R17s.

With any luck I'll be testing them out this winter.
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He doesn't have to worry about driving an M3 in the winter any more...I bought the car from him last week.

I hope he gets another one though, this one is actually an automatic. He ended up putting some Bridgestone Blizzak WS80 snow tires on the car, IIRC they're 225/45 R17s.

With any luck I'll be testing them out this winter.
Ok, I'm confused. OP says he was looking to possibly buy a 5spd but you say you bought an automatic from him last week?
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I know; I'm confuised too. I think he owned the '97 automatic for a few years. He did put some Blizzaks on the car I bought from him, I guess he was testing it out last season.

I hope he's still looking for that 5-speed M3...even with that balky automatic transmission, at 240K miles, probably on its last legs, it's a really fun car!
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As someone who lives in Central PA and dailies an M3 Iíd recommend against it. First off, we donít have snow consistently, so snow tires will wear very quickly. Second, itís COLD here. I found my passenger door didnít close because the mechanism froze, and I had to use my wifeís hair dryer to get my door to close all the way. That was fun.

If youíve ever driven in snow you know what you really want is front wheel drive and skinny tires. This has big wide tires, rear wheel drive, and lots of power. Itís not impossible, but itís far, far from ideal.

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As someone who lives in Central PA and dailies an M3 Iíd recommend against it. First off, we donít have snow consistently, so snow tires will wear very quickly. Second, itís COLD here. I found my passenger door didnít close because the mechanism froze, and I had to use my wifeís hair dryer to get my door to close all the way. That was fun.

If youíve ever driven in snow you know what you really want is front wheel drive and skinny tires. This has big wide tires, rear wheel drive, and lots of power. Itís not impossible, but itís far, far from ideal.

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Weird, in my 8 or 9 winters of DD'ing the M3, I never experienced a problem with winter tires wearing out quickly. They're still worth it because the weather is frequently below 40 degrees where winter tires have an advantage. I think I went through two sets. Get an alignment.

Fix your door mechanism. A problem with your particular car doesn't automatically translate to all remaining e36's. I would suggest silicone spray in the lock mechanism before winter, though.

That said, I agree that it's not ideal. Despite spending full days detailing the car, the paint went from 9/10 condition to 3/10 - mostly because of winters and PA road construction...
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How long winter tires last really comes down to the brand. Using winter tires for more than 30 years in my experience
Blizzaks<michelin Xice 1,2,3<nokian Hakkapellitta
The blizzaks last at most 1 season and I can get 3 to 4 out of a set of Hakkas
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